$75 billion was spent on the intelligence budget. almost all on spying on american citizens, hacking into the systems of other countries. none was spent on how to do defense, defending our own country. even in russia gate, all the hysteria about the russians attacking our election system, tulsi gabbard said if you're worried about it, pass this bill to provide paper ballots to make sure there was no hacking. there was no interest in that. seems like there's a real interest in hyping this enemy constantly creating new programs and bureaucracies that take billions of dollars. but simple solutions to actually provide defense don't generate much interest in washington. >> tucker: that is such a great point about paper ballots. people just weren't -- i vaguely remember this. people were not very interested in protecting the system with paper ballots, which would do it. >> yeah, i mean that was her point. tulsi gabbard would say, all you