is waging a coordinated disinformation campaign to smear him for talking about this. if lou joins us tonight. thanks so much for coming on. >> always a pleasure. >> tucker: thank you. what are they doing to you, and why? >> well, there are certainly pockets of resistance within the pentagon and my concern is that they're not being forthcoming with the american people about the reality of the program and the findings of the program, my role in the program and frankly the importance of this topic from a national security perspective. i think the concern for me is there's a lot of information that still hasn't seen the light of day and they are obfuscating the truth and more importantly, they may be doing it to congress, which is a whole other level of deception of course if that is indeed the case. >> tucker: yeah, and it's also illegal. they are required by law to release this information to the congress and to the public. when can we expect that and how convinced are you that they are going to be withholding critical