along with race, this free-speech issue should be one of the great reasons why liberals are worried about the left. >> tucker: that's right. and we interviewed decent people on the left all the time. they are every bit as exercised as anyone i know who works here. are there comedians, do you think, apart from dave chapelle, like you were the people who are going to be leading the renaissance of free speech? >> other than the comedians? i think many pod casters, dave ruben, obviously -- >> while he's asking about comedians. are there other comedians other than dave chapelle? >> well, there is david chapelle, an incoming has what comedians do. comedians hit a saturation point and then they push back. i mean, consistently throughout