stigmatize people with mental illness. i'll tell you what does that. when people commit severe crimes and has reported and people know it. what we need to do is discuss what's really happening out there as we can discuss how to fix it. >> yeah, line doesn't help anybody the last question but we are in the middle of the deadliest drug epidemic in american history and drug use appears to be going up rather than down. what would be the reason that we are not studying this? >> you know, that's a good question. i think unfortunately there is a large portion of academia who believes that drug use can't be stopped and that we really shouldn't try to stop it. we should just try to reduce the harm which is funny because the better that we get at harm reduction or a needle sharing are all these programs that are supposed to help drug users, the more people die from drug use. i'm talking about opioids right now not cannabis. but culturally, we seem to have decided as a country we are not going to try to stop drug use and guess what question mike