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more than we sell them. also, you know, they can go after u.s. companies in china but the problem is, they then undercut their reputation for being a reliable number of global supply chains and that's what made china rise. getting factories into china, now they are pushing factories out of china, and that is really bad news for the chinese communist system. >> tucker: but maybe that's the key to it. it is a communist system, if not a democracy, so its leaders can absorb a lot more pain than our leaders can, because they are not accountable to voters. they can kind of do what they want. doesn't that give them an advantage in a short-term? >> it gives them a little bit of advantage, but, you know, we have seen president trump show so much more will than xi jinping, and by the way, xi jinping of course doesn't have a formal election coming up like president trump does next november. but xi jinping actually

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