centuries on end, is not the cause of a modern-day so-called crisis such as climate change. so, no, the people know what they want. we don't want to be the eating insects. we want our steak. and as long as we keep saying no to this insect push we might still have a chance of eating it but i really do feel like now is the time to say no. >> tucker: exactly. farmers are not the problem. over-paid nonprofit executives and politicians are the problem obviously. eva, thank you very much for joining us, as always. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: so what is this new bug food going to look like? well, here it is. >> my name is seth joseph, edible insect ambassador and we want to raise awareness and appreciation for sustainable forms of protein. how can we sustainably feed the