size, you have presidential aides that are there. they're not bringing out their a-team really indicating that they don't see the delegations as a means to an end. quite possibly you can examine the potential they're buying time. >> martha: we have seen movement west. we just covered an airport that are bombed that is southwest of kyiv. what is your sense in kyiv of what is coming your way or do you feel relatively safe there? >> it still feels like it's relatively safe here. that being said nor the people on the ground, they very much feel that they're a nation at war and very much in the conflict. there's growing speculation that as the russian army and vladimir putin tries to dominate those seaport cities and then takes the capitol still of kyiv, they may stop there. so there's the potential always that his battle plan doesn't