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peter to clear the air. i have to say, peter has held this with grace and humor. >> martha: there's a piece in the national review that suggests this is not coincidence. also the bull connor comments, all of it, they suggest could possibly be part of a strategy to sort of try to show that the president has a fire in his belly, that he's not afraid to push back. you have obviously observed a lot of presidents and their interaction with the press over the year. what do you think? >> president trump had a strategy. he spent four years calling journalists morons and idiots. i criticized that, too. president trump faced extraordinary intense media hostility that the president has not. i've known joe biden since the 80s. he used to enjoy sparring with reporters. what this says to me is that he's really feeling the pressures of this very rough stretch in his presidency. he's not used to it even though

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