and can you make sure we have fair market rent values? you have to realize, all of those vouchers come out of a pool of money that doesn't grow just because you say grill it. and if we take the price of those vouchers and we escalate them significantly, and that means there are fewer people who can be helped. so the better thing to do is go and look at the root cause: why are things they are so expensive? what can be done about them? and then, how can we deal with the mentally ill individuals? washington, d.c., recently was given a waiver by hhs so they could use medicare -- medicaid dollars for mental illness. california could have applied for that same waiver of. and those are the kind of things that have to be done, it has to be done with the federal, state, local, as well as faith-based, the for-profit, the nonfor profits, we need to work together, because it can be done. >> ed: mr. secretary, you are you ideas to the table, and was interesting to me, among other