collusion hoax. i said it was russian collusion. russian disinformation that started with my reporting. i believe in the test of time. when people look at these facts six months from now we will get the truth. >> martha: let's watch this exchange david holmes on lusenko and rudy giuliani. watch. >> the three priorities of security, economy and justice and our support for ukrainian democratic resistance to russian aggression became overshadowed by a political agenda promoted by former new york city mayor rudy giuliani and a cad cadre of officials operating with a direct channel 209 white house. that change began with the emergence of press reports critical of ambassador yovanovitch machinations by prosecuting general lusenko and others to discredit her. >> martha: see said there was a campaign of stories. she didn't understand where it was coming from that started coming out that were derogatory about her. >> that's right. >> martha: you were part of those stories. >> i wrote the stories. i wasn't part of them i