source. it's not as if the whistle-blower had an agreement with the press where he would remain anonymous. the press is not committed to that. if you look at the law involved, which is called the intelligence community whistle-blower protection act, it only says the -- the only person that can't reveal the name is the intelligence community inspector general. even he can do it if he feels that it would be impractical to conceal the name in the course of events. >> martha: you know, on this -- on the front of the developments in this story, a politco report today that lieutenant colonel vindman who we heard some of the testimony that flipped out, he said the lawyers told him not to discuss the call, that he was upset about it and that's what prompted the move of putting that phone call in its contents into that more secure server. your thoughts on that report. >> well, certainly democrats are trying to get the white house