vice president. he was -- he had been out of office for more than a year when they visited him. that is a flat-out memory failure. i am the same age as he is. i have those memory failures. men that age do. i think that's happening to biden. he couldn't remember whether he was in new hampshire or vermont. he's forgetful, it's confusion. >> martha: very unlikely he would be in vermont at this stage. >> exactly. >> martha: new hampshire is where you want to be. it's also worth noting that his team has expressed some lowering of expectations in iowa, saying if he doesn't win guy a while, it's not going to be a big deal. we are looking at the super tuesday, it reminds me of the rudy giuliani strategy which didn't work out so well. >> the other parallel is giuliani had a lead that lasted for a long time that year. and then he never got anywhere. i think biden's situation quite