and there is also a move to recall him. we'll have the latest on the arizona murder case. >> hey, wayne chung is going to perform in just a few minutes. >> bill: i love them ♪ everybody wayne chung tonight. >> bill: glenn beck and i will analyze the state dinner with the chinese president and what you can no longer say on cnn. caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. ♪ >> bill: hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. will illegal aliens decide the presidential election of 2012? that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. with the economy likely time prove over the next two years, president obama has a real chance to be reelected in 2012. but in order for that to happen, he needs the vast majority of hispanic americans to vote for him because he has lost so much independent support. the republicans also need hispanic american voters badly in states like colorado, new mexico, and florida. thus, immigration reform becomes perhaps the most important issue facing both political parties today. as you know, the issue is complicated and emotional. this week a los angeles county supervisor announced the city is spending $600 million on welfare payments to illegal alien children alone. more than a billion overall to illegal aliens. l.a. is broke. partially because of that. throughout the rest of the country, illegal alien entitlements cost the american taxpayers an estimated $113 billion a year. according to the federation for american immigration reform, a group that wants stricter immigration laws. the u.s. government does not keep statistics on payments to illegal i, which is incredible. but we all know that the porous border is hurting the country. can't have more than 10 million illegal aliens running around without consequences. narcotics come over the southern border. a million foreign born people have found jobs since the recession began, a million. 35% of them are illegal aliens. that obviously impacts the unemployment rate which now stands above 9%. by the way, those labor stats come from northeastern university in boston. presently, there is no immigration reform legislation on the table. but you can be sure that president obama will drive the issue soon again because he needs hispanic americans to support him. the republican party should be ready with its own plan. that will be tricky because many conservative americans want tough border patrols and americans working in the u.s.a. you can see the g.o.p. is between a rock and pardon place. it will take a creative piece of legislation. not mean-spirited but tough enough to stop the madness. that will be incredibly difficult. but the outcome may well determine hot next president is that's the memo. now for the top story tonight, reaction first from fox business anchor lou dobbs, do you agree with me that hispanic americans may very well decide the race in 2012? >> i think that's correct. i think you are absolutely right. you and i may, however, disagree about who those hispanic americans are. people overlook the fact that almost 40%, 38% of hispanic americans voted for republicans on november 2nd. >> bill: this time around. but they went big for obama in 2008. >> just about 63%. >> bill: right. >> the reality is that hispanics are not any mormon litani thick than whites or anyone else. african-americans are monolith ethic basically. just about 90% supporting the democratic party. >> bill: would you say that all hispanic americans, even conservative hispanic americans watch the debate very closely. >> absolutely. >> bill: if it's mean-spirited, even people who, you know, it's like so the republicans are at a disadvantage in the debate i think they can disadvantage themselves. as you suggest, they are intelligent in the way in which they position their concerns if they were to suddenly pander to open borders it, would be a disaster. >> barack obama with all due respect to the president is going to do that absolutely going to do that. >> absolutely. he have as much success this time in my judgment as he has had previously. >> bill: that's a very interesting point. the house blocks them. president obama blocks lenient immigration reform bill. let's say that because it's a very real possibility. so nothing gets done. what do hispanics do? >> i think hispanics again are a lot of different people with very different views about this. >> bill: who will they go for say romney vs. obama? obama offered a very lenient immigration bill. romney is backed by the g.o.p., which blocked the lenient immigration bill. >> when you saline yent, remember, there was president bush and the republican party leading the way toward the first edition of comprehensive immigration reform. >> bill: it got its butt kicked. >> yes, it did. and the reason for that and for its reputation in 2007 and for what we have seen with the dream act of 2010 and these other really tortured efforts has been that there has been no candor, no direct assessment of the impier empirical reality. >> bill: we just gave it. $113 billion a year spent on entitlements for illegal aliens? we don't have the money. >> $113 billion. other n. addition to that 200 billion in depressed wages as a result. a labor study showed that a million new immigrants, 35% of them illegal pushing native born workers out of jobs. >> bill: i don't know if that's accurate though. because they take jobs that a lot of americans just don't want. >> you can have it any way you want it that is the impicture call reality. it occurred during a period of time in which more than 6 million americans from 2008 to 2010, bill, lost their jobs. >> bill: lost their jobs. there is no reason here for debate. there is no reason for anyone to get all bent out of shape. those are the facts. now, let's have an honest, impier rickally based debate and discussion. >> bill: economists scream that the middle class can't get ahead because wages don't go up. who is suppressing the wages? illegal labor. >> in part. but we also have to take into account. the positives. there is also a contribution in doubt about that you have got to have the green card and then the contribution racks up. the other side is just chaos and you can't run -- >> without question. there is the potential here and i think one of the things that mitigation some of the vulnerability you are talking about for the siskt nonsense. they want the facts. they want to talk about it. >> bill: and they want a solution. >> they want to be involved in the discussion. >> bill: it f. it's articulated a right way you are right. it's going to be demagogue all over the place. >> it has been for so many years. >> bill: let me ask you about jeffrey immelt ceo of general electric. head of the president's advisory council on economics. nbc far and away on television the most rabid supporter of barack obama in 2008. is this a payback here. >> hard to figure out what the payback would be. payback for approving the sale of g.e. assets universal to comcast? is it payback for. >> bill: payback for helping get elected. >> for g.e. receiving the second largest bailout of a non-back institution? is it pay back for as you said? >> bill: that was payback one. this is immelt payback two. >> they are good friends. interesting that the ceo of believes that the should be in partnership with the government and the government should be a financier. >> bill: this is quid pro quo. tit-for-tat. you help me, here is your job. >> considerable scrutiny based on the potential for possibly a conflict. >> bill: nbc news. might be scrutiny here. i don't think nbc is going to be scrutinizing that. >> might see one hour of obama interviews on every -- >> bill: the council doesn't mean anything anyway. it's an interesting political payback deal. all right, lowe, thanks very much. >> great to be with you, bill. >> bill: keeping away from lou. lou will leave and geraldo will come. later, glenn beck and i will discuss the big chinese dinner at the white house and what you can no longer say on cnn. lou dobbs. you can't say that on cnn anymore. coming right back. ♪ one for theoney, and a-two for the show ♪ i like it. i do too. ♪ even if i'm poor ♪ ain't chasing nothing ♪ you're gonna have to catch me ♪ ♪ and if you want to dance ♪ you're gonna have to pay a fee ♪ ♪ i'm the bomb and about to blow up ♪ ♪ yeah, i'm the bomb ♪ and about to blow up ♪ yeah ♪ whoa-oh-oh-oh-oh ♪ whoa-oh-oh-oh-oh ♪ everybody, sing it now ♪ whoa-oh-oh-oh-oh ♪ whoa-oh-oh-oh-oh ♪ everybody, sing it now >> bill: continuing with our lead story the possibility that hispanic voters will decide the race in 2012. here now fox news anchor geraldo rivera. you heard dobbs and i kicking it around. what say you? >> i did. i think the best sentence i could utter is i just interviewed jeb bush who was a very successful governor in florida. he got 60% of the hispanic democratic vote when he ran because he is a reasonable man who has a traditional republican view on immigration as being very necessary to the vitality of american business, to our future. it's the one antidote we have to the problems that plague russia and northern europe, an aging population. these are the young, strong, brown backs that will help carry the nation forward. they will save social security from bankruptcy. and i think the attitude, the anti-immigration attitude in jeb bush's words is like people pouring kerosene over their heads and lighting it on fire and saying watch, i will show you. >> bill: what percentage of the republican party, and certainly i want a very robust legal immigration program. okay? because i agree with you that we need to have this labor but it needs to be legal. it needs to go through the process. so, what percentage of the republican party would you feel disagrees with me? they don't want to see any foreigners here? >> i think the attitude and the tone of the immigration debate in this country has been vial. it has been obscene. it has affected and offended hispanic people from every corner of this country. >> bill: who is responsible for that? >> i think talk radio and cable news and i think the tone has been driven in a way that's hysterical with antidotes on a crime being committed by an illegal alien invariably getting the headline. when the talk of the toil and the family values of the vast majority of them. >> bill: that only happens here when it's -- >> moderate on it compared to others. but it is ugly, bill. >> bill: put yourself in some areas it is but in some areas it's fair. put yourself in a working class person's americans shoes right now and he hears on the factor that $113 billion a year. >> i reject that statistic utterly. >> bill: you reject it but say it's close. >> that organization is not a fair organization. >> bill: we know what it is, but in los angeles you know these enormous amount of money going to entitlements. so the person is going "i don't want my tax money to go there. we have enough problems here. the government has got to regulate stuff. we can't be spending this money." >> why is it in los angeles, for example, when you talk about is it 600 million is the purported figure now? you don't talk about the amount of money, the receipts that the bodega owner gets, the taco stand gets, the target store gets, the wal-mart gets. no. that money is being paid by these undocumented people in terms of sales tax, they pay social security tax. the numbers that they -- >> bill: if you are going to keep that point of view then you are an open border guy. you are saying we should let anybody to come in. >> border security is different issue. i support you 100%. if you want to build 100-foot wall, 1,000-foot wall build it. illegal immigration. >> bill: common ground on the security of the border. give amnesty for people who are here? >> you start first bypassing the dream act. how is it that we could oppose a bill whereby people that came as kids nnt children who have commit nod crime and going to go to college or join the military and they couldn't get a ticket to legitimacy? that's where you start. those 800,000. start with them. >> bill: the republican party then starts to get behind something like the dream act, with modifications all right in we have to take into account the cost to the country, what happens here. i agree with you. it's not the children's fault. they are dragged here by their parents. and so you shouldn't then illegal immigration, it became the ebb and flow and informal system developed. >> bill: what does that mean? >> the fact of the matter is, you have got to cut some people some slack. that's how you get the 12 million here. >> bill: i'm not cutting anybody some flack over the mexican war. >> if they have committed no crime and if they're hard-working. >> bill: i think that people can come up with a creative way to solve this problem, all right? the g.o.p. has got to -- g.o.p. has to do it. they have to do it if they want to -- >> you mentioned in and i was so shocked i was watching the show a day or so ago. o'reilly and i are finally in agreement on their. you mentioned, i'm a republican. there is no way the republican party can survive without hispanic people. >> they have to get there. >> barack obama is president, is he really not first black president. he is only half black. is he really the first latino president because he wouldn't be president but for the latino vote. you mentioned nevada and new mexico and colorado. and north carolina. >> bill: is he black and white and latino now? he is going to have a massive headache. i have got to stop you. geraldo and i are both long island people. we grew up with the new york jets. they came in here today and unfortunately they ran into geraldo. go. ♪ ♪ >> so you are going to pittsburgh. all right. put a little suit on you. go jets. >> bill: you have no rhythm at all, you are a latino you looked like her monday -- herman munster with those people. >> i have a bum foot. >> bill: then, who is the frontrunner to take on president obama? 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>> you know, the problem is it's not quite clear who stelg him to shut up because all parties have shut up. if there is a gag order, sort of a universal gag order, and lacking the subpoena power of the county attorney has when i inquired over there to say well, what's going on here? all they will say is we just want to assure everybody we have got a nice working relationship with the sheriff and we always have. >> bill: okay. but who has the power in the state to tell an elected sheriff in a county you better stop it, you better stop inflaming the story? anybody have the power to do that? >> well, that's sort of an interesting thing. when we talked with a couple of criminal defense attorneys about this, people who we trust and we use for legal analysis what they told us is what they think is going on, it's speculation but -- what they think is going on is county attorney barbara -- looked at some of the rules of procedure that she is obliged to live up to as an attorney, as a member of the bar association and decided that there is the potential that actions by the sheriff could get her in trouble. what these attorneys explained to me is that the county attorney, under arizona law, the county attorney is effectively the legal advisor for the sheriff and really all county department heads. and as such, his actions can reflect on her actions. and these attorneys that we talked with said that there have been some instances, none here in pima county, where investigators have done things that cause problems with the investigation and prosecutors ended up sanctioned as a result. >> bill: okay. so the attorney general in phoenix, he has the power to sanction the county attorney who then is basically delegate dupnik i think this is what is happening. going to get in trouble. knock it off. i think the attorney general is the final word in state matters. >> now, my understanding on this is actually a bar association sanction. >> a bar association? >> they could be sanctioned by the bar. >> bill: the arizona bar association? >> a disbarment action. >> bill: senator pierce, in order to recall sheriff dupnik, you have got to get about 90 though, signatures in pima county to put him up for election again. i think that's doable. i mean, if they organize down there, the anti-dupnik forces they can get the 90,000, am i wrong? >> oh, no, you are absolutely right. it's a tough hurdle and intended to be. recalls are a tough standard. sheriff dupnik has been there a long time. i'm a former sheriff's deputy in the maricopa county sheriff's office. 40 largest in the nation. he has inserted himself not only did he inflame the issue with calling his constituents and the citizens of the state of arizona racists and bigots because they wants the laws enforced and border security. evidence ignores the fact that was murdered on the border. he ignores the fact that brian terry was just murdered on the border as a border patrol agent and 12 police officers killed and can i go on and on and on. it's outrageous that he would accuse us of being racist and bigots because we want our laws enforced. in addition to that he has refused to enforce senate bill 60. that's against his oath of office. >> bill: despite all that, the voters put him back in. >> after they put him they put him back in. now they are saying, whoops, maybe we made a mistake. you are right. >> bill: now that he has become a big national guy done all of this stuff and the murders and the shooting of congresswoman giffords: >> he is jeopardized the case. because what he has done. >> bill: some people say he has jeopardized the state case. the federal case isn't jeopardized but the state case. >> maybe both of them. he has given the defense fodder. >> bill: you need 90,000 signatures. okay? about 350,000 people voted for sheriff dupnik last time around. you can't tell me you are not going to get 90,000 signatures to recall the man. you are. that's what's going to happen. >> you are absolutely right. recalls are still tough. >> bill: do you see it that way, mr. smith. do you see in your county that forces against dupnik will get the 90,000 you need and there will be a new election? >> well, you know, i'm not sure i'm going to really attempt to get some sort of head count. certainly a lot of people have become very exercised about his comments. we have also heard a lot of people who have said, yeah, you know, he is the leading law enforcement officer for pima county. he speaks with the experience of somebody who has seen loads and loads of gun crime over the years. so, we're hearing and we're seeing support on both sides. it's going to be quite an election. >> i couldn't imagine he couldn't get 90,000 with all of this publicity and controversy. i will bet you guys that they get it but we will follow the story. we have got to run and we appreciate it very much. >> i think you are right. thank you. plenty more as the factor moves along this evening. huckabee, palin front runners to go up against barack obama in 2012. chris wallace will analyze. barack obama and i on the big chinese dinner at the white house and what you can no longer say on cnn. oh, we hope you student to those reports. 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>> you know, i'm not sure. and let me just say something that i think is counter intuitive. i think a lot of liberals think well, you know, fox news is going to anoint the next president and it's going to be one of these three people, huckabee, palin and gingrich who is fox news contributors. i think it's exactly the opposite. i think the fact is they enjoy working at fox. they get a nice paycheck with fairly light lifting. they are able to get their views across. if you would have asked me six months ago huckabee was not going to run. he enjoyed his life tooch. the fact that he is ahead in these polls right now and leading most of the polls. i think there is a chance that he will run. and i think he will be a formidable candidate if he runs. >> bill: let's gus discuss that his base is in the south. comes from a small at a time in arkansas. attached to the evangelistic movement. the governor is a very ledge just guy. is he the big northern secular states, mike huckabee, i think, is going to be at a bit of a disadvantage. >> we are talking about the primaries. >> bill: i want to talk about -- we have got to talk about both. getting the nomination and defeating the president. because i think there are a lot of independents are going to be very, very important. they will be looking at somebody who can win. >> yeah. but, you know, in a lot of those early states especially iowa which he won in 2008. south carolina where i think he would be very strong and probably win in 2012, i mean, he could really be on his way to the nomination. christian evangelical the whole religious right. his big problem, the one issue you mentioned money. he had trouble raising money in 2008. he would have trouble or at least he is worried about raising money in 2012. i think that would be a big concern for him. >> bill: yeah and organizations as well. he has got to spend money ahead of time to put the organizations together. sarah palin certainly a wild card. nobody really knows what the governor is going to do. i can't make a prediction. as i said i think governor huckabee is going to give it a shot. i don't know about governor palin. what say you? >> i'm on the record. i said to her face on the sunday before the election on "fox news sunday" i think you are making too much money. i think you are having too much fun. i don't think you are going to run. she obviously didn't say yes or no. i still don't think she is going to run. i think she is still continuing to make money and have fun. look, she is also a practical politician. one of the keys you talked about is beating obama. she just has very high negatives. there certainly is a faction of the republican party that loves her and will walk through fire for her. but there are an awful lot of more mainstream republicans. who either have doubts themselves or have real doubts that she could ever win. her numbers among independence are just terrible. i think she faces a really steep obstacle. she would be able to raise plenty of money because she has got a lot of support. obviously media coverage would not be a problem. every time the woman, you know, sets her foot down, she gets media coverage. but i think her electability would be a big issue in the primaries and a big issue if she were to get the nomination. >> >> bill: now, mitt romney is going to run. he has already set up organizations around the country and raising money doing favors for republicans from coast to coast. he still doesn't poll well. even after the recognition that he got the first time around, i see him in his organization as being the most powerful right now. >> he is almost like the flip of the other two he can raise money, got a ton of money. raise money very easily. you are exactly right from the 2008 campaign. he has strong ground organizations key states. nuts and bolts sense he has everything. his problem is the grass root support. health care reform is going to be a big problem for him. that's obviously a big issue. when he implemented romney care which is something like obama care in massachusetts. and, you know, i think he is kind of the establishment candidate at a time when the establishment isn't cool. no indication that he has any support from the tea party faction of the republican party. >> bill: very conservative wing of the republican party doesn't particularly like him. however, he can run on his business cred. that's going to be the big issue. he can run as i will be the ceo of america and get us back on track. what do you have for sunday on "fox news sunday"? >> we will be looking ahead to the state of the union obviously on tuesday. big speech for the president as he continues what i think is a very clear, conscious, calculated move to the center. we will have the top republican in the senate, mitch mcconnell and the number two democrat in the senate dick durbin. >> bill: all right. chris wallace, everybody, thank you. when we come back, glenn beck at a wild at your beck and call segment tonight, what you can no longer say on cnn. don't miss this one. >> bill: thanks for staying with us. i'm bill o'reilly in the at your beck and call segment tonight. annualed big state kiran for hu jintao on wednesday. we had fun with it we know the american chinese relations are very important. so that's where we begin this evening. so neither beck nor i were invited to the big chinese state white house dinner. >> i was very surprised. >> bill: this is what we missed but barbra streisand did. >> pear salad with goat cheese fenel. black walnuts and white ball sal mick. i have that usually for lunch. >> sometimes. sometimes dog. >> bill: i love the fenel. go even know what that is. >> i don't know what diaju. >> bill: that's from france. >> thank you, professor. >> bill: poached maine lobster. orange glazed carrots. black trumpet mushrooms. that's a mushroom that plays an instrument. chardonnay with that. >> then you have the pallet cleanser of a little sore bay. >> lemon sore bay. >> right to the dry aged ribeye. may i ask you a question? seriously. if you were going over to somebody's house that owed you a ton of money. >> bill: i would have this. >> you would go down a level than what you could afford because you wouldn't want them to sit there because you have to say, look, man, we are really struggling. we really need more money. >> bill: put on happy face. >> now wouldn't. >> bill: you have to live large to make them think you are doing great. >> if you are having the stuffed potatoes and the lobster and the ribeye, you don't need my money. >> bill: and creamed spinach. what are you blowing my money on you? are a coke addict. >> bill: this dinner raised the deficit 30% just to afford. this i did like the attendees not that we're pandering at all. jacque khan, yo-yo ma. vera wang. it's like we have chinese people here. what? we're just like you. hey, wang chung is going to perform in just a few minutes. >> bill: i love their hit ♪ everybody wang chung tonight. >> bill: they finish it off with the old fashioned apple pie with vanilla ice cream. michelle obama is telling everybody to slim down. this is 90,000 calories right here. hu jintao they had to carry him out. is he used to eating a couple noodles. they had to carry the man out of there. >> i could see him like got his belt on. >> bill: you are killing me, literally. my cholesterol. >> i love the fact that he comes on an air china commercial jet liner. >> bill: he was the only one on it. >> that's okay. >> bill: that's okay? everybody else was executed and he came by himself. >> commercial airliner. i thought you know what? this is exactly what -- when we fly over with 14 planes and 700 limousines and all they all the presidential seal on them, two 747's. you are coming over and we are asking for money, don't you think that president hu jintao might have said something like i don't know what congress said to the g.m. people, hey, man, take a commercial flight. mr. president, take a commercial flight. he is flying commercial. and the biggest -- the debtor in the world is flying -- >> bill: jintao wants us to be a debtor. >> i know. >> bill: ladies and gentlemen, this is why we are not invited. they don't let us bar barbarians. doughnut the pears. -- donate the pears. >> bill: cnn you can't say crosshairs anymore. you heard that right? >> i did. i heard their -- i don't know who they -- all of their -- maybe only 2-year-olds watching cnn? i'm not sure. >> bill: you worked there could you say crosshairs when you worked there. >> yes, i could. i don't know when did they take crossfire off the air? for years they were like and in the crossfire. >> bill: that's why they they cancelled the show. guys bought bazookas after watching that. >> first episode barry goldwater was on it. notice barry goldwater is dead now. yes. >> bill: directly because of the show? >> i don't know. i am just saying. at some point it will happen. >> bill: other stuff you can't say on cnn. are you ready? stick to your guns? you can't say congressman louise slaughter. you can't say the woman's name. now, ladies and gentlemen, it's just com congress luis. rhetoric for your last name. >> bill: cnn you can't say battleground states. you can't say bite the bullet. you can't say fight tooth and nail. you can't say bang for the buck. you can't say it no more bang for the buck. and you cannot say attack ad. you can't say it. now, we have to apologize to congressman louise. it's not our rules it's cnn. >> i love the way -- we are trying. they are very trying. with you they are trying. they are trying so hard. please hold us, i love, this please hold us to your high standards. like do you know everybody's standards that are watching? >> bill: only four people. >> it is possible. how about we hold ourselves to our standards and if you like them, great. if you don't, turn the channel. how about that one? >> bill: i don't know. i just don't want to incite any violence, beck. now i know you do but i don't. >> no, i really don't. you have noticed for like two years i have been saying hey, we have got to educate ourselves and enlighten ourself and, just get involved. >> bill: i have been on the road with beck. he is the most peaceful guy in the world. you are almost like the ma maharisi. i don't know anybody who has their album but you ♪ ♪ wind chimes in the dressing room. little incense. that's you. and, therefore, i think you should go back to cnn and work there. 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[ male announcer ] there's aflac and there's everything else. visit aflac.com for an agent or quote. aflac! >> bill: back of the book segment tonight, the dumbest things of the week. here now to help us out with this fox news correspondent arthel neville and if -- arthel has chosen a gimmick here in new york city where some subway riders go without pants. >> welcome, everybody, to the tenth annual no pants subway ride. ♪ >> danger. >> i forgot my pants. >> what's that going won your no pants. >> oh, i just for got my pants. >> first of all, i don't think it's dumb. it's very amusing. >> bill: you think it's dumb. why isn't it the dumbest thing of the week. >> just because it's highlighted i don't think it's dumb. >> bill: i think it's dumb. >> of course you do. this is big social networking site, bill. this is called the flash mob. you get a group of random people gathered at a predetermined location, predetermined time and they do these acts together. >> bill: why? >> they want to get on youtube. they want to create a buzz. >> bill: this isn't dumb? go in the subway in january to get on youtube with no pants isn't dumb? that's what you are telling me. >> i didn't see i would do it. i find it amusing. even the riders. >> would you want to sit next to one of them? can you imagine -- >> you would have to be vaccinated. isn't this dumb? am i crazy? >> it is so dumb. you know, it's a waste of people's time, too. i want to like volunteering somewhere. >> bill: these people have nothing better to do. >> you weren't paying attention when i walked in the door. i'm actually part of the flash mob right now. >> bill: you are from the south. here in new york, people in new york, i don't care, they have no pants. if this were chattanooga, tennessee, they would be stopped to death. this isn't a cultural thing. pants, we don't care. now, you have chosen michelle obama being blamed for pedestrian deaths; is that is tt correct? >> yes. >> bill: set this up for you. >> the governor's highway safety association came out with a report saying that pedestrian deaths picked up unexpectedly, they had been falling in the first half of last year. and some people, a spokesman in particular were grasping at why that happened. >> bill: so people walking around, rather than riding in a car, they are being run over by cars. and here's the sound bite. go. >> this is obama obviously being the key one trying to get us to walk to work and exercise a little bit more. and while that's good, it also increases our exposure to risks. >> bill: how dumb is this? how dumb is this. >> latest effort to fight obesity to get people out moving, one of the reasons that people are getting run over. because we're also stupid. we're just darting in front of cars. this connection doesn't get any dumber, period. that's absurd. instead they backtracked quick. >> bill: ms. neville, what if the people getting run over didn't have any pants on? would that be doublely dumb. >> as long as they were clean. your mother always told to you wear clean underwear in case you were in an accident. >> bill: colosally dumb that statement. open borders, don't block anybody. everybody comes. in everybody is happy. it's called the other side of immigration. they hired these two ladies to scale the border fence. this is the real border fence. all right? and they did it in 18 seconds. watch. they did it in 18 seconds. two actors, actresses, all right? there at the top of the border fence. all right? now, why is this dumb? where is the barbed wire on top of the fence? we spend gazillions of dollars. they had to knock out the virtual fence. we only spent a billion on that. a billion dollars they wasted because they had the little fence that when you touched it it went beep beep, go back, go back. beep beep. stop anybody. a billion dollars. they knocked that out. dumb. now they had this fence that they build andcolosal out of money. no barb wire on top of it. >> 18-year-old woman can get over it in 16 seconds. >> younger would have gotten over in seven seconds. this with s. why this country as brilliant as private citizens are. the government is ridiculously idiotic. >> you have got to figure that out, seriously. >> bill: dumbest thing of the week? >> absolutely. money misspent. >> very much so. >> and a collosal amount of money. >> yeah. >> bill: all we got to do is put the raiser wire on top of it, no as john belushiy once said. good to see you. i hope gutfeld gets out on bail. we will take a collection up. pinheads patriots up next. barbra streisand. backs. as the factor continues in . >> bill: pinheads and patriots starring barbra streisand in a moment. i'm >> and now, i speak the no spinn the website. i can give you a bunch of inside baseball and lots of stuff. i'm glad you are liking this feature. if you become a premium member now you get my book free. great deal. now to the mail: >> bill: i kept an open mind. in the talking points memo may th, 2 olbermann, observer man, olbermann, olbermann, oh berman, observe man, olbermann he is the first left. in chicago: i am 15, and glad m tv is criticise for skin. the last thing we need another show that is trashing teens of our country. and from new hampshire: i am 15 and while all scenes do not do drugs, "skins," is a reflection of our culture. and from vermont: bill, after the segment of "skins," i told my 17-year-old he would not be watching it and he responded "no problem, it's a stupid show." and from california "your word for word interview with president obama printed was outstanding and obvious he was caught off guard." but he won't be in round two, the day of the super bowl, richard. i look forward to that on the fox broadcast network but it will be part of the pregame activities, we will come up with the president for a live interview. it should be happening. and from pennsylvania "i will bet you on jets game. if pittsburgh wins you send me a copy of "pinhead to paid trots," and if the jets win i will buy an american patriots fleece jacket. >> you are on and i won't take the 3 1/2 points. even up. and finally, patriots, beck and i were not invited to the chinese state dinner, miss barbara streisand was. >> so is she a pinhead or a patriot? you can vote on that. last night we showed you gr gretchan under pressure. >> they are climbers living under the tree. they live everywhere. come on. >> he did not heaven help her. did you notice? 65 percent say her reaction to the vicious animal was patriot evening and 35 percent believe she is a pinhead. that is it for us check out the website with talking points which is different from www. www.billo'reilly.com and you can