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a professor of medicine and public health. he's precisely the type of person that americans should be hearing hearing fromming -- from. he's precisely the type of person to be engaging in a scientific debate, and that's what people need to hear. that's the only reason why his voice is able to be heard now, which is stunning, is because there was an equally powerful platform if, which is fox news, that said, hey, we're going to call you out on this. we're going to call you to account for this naked censorship of scientific debate. that's not okay. and so we need to stand up for all of the diverse, small independent voices that don't have a platform like fox news and say that this will not be tolerated. steve: that's exactly right. well put. thank you, kristin. well, look, if you want to hear more conversations like that with jay and more from kristin, make sure you check us out at california rebel base.com. and now let's take a step back and look at the big picture when it comes to big tech.

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