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that he can go back out into open water unsuccessfully. i know you guys have been watching this. such a hard story to watch. very sad. jane: we will keep our fingers crossed. thank you. jon: and thank you for joining us this hour. "live desk" is up next. [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- trace: we are live inside the fox news room because this is where the news begins, and we are the only show it takes you behind the news. that is the national desk, tim gaughan and his team managing news crews across the country. the foreign desk is in constant contact with our bureaus around the world, an immediate test is where all of the brand new pictures come in to fox news channel. here at the "live desk," those new pages will always be in the boxes on the right side of the screen. breaking today, a brand new unemployment numbers that look good -- at least on paper. but here's the key question -- is there any indication that americans who want work are finding work? we have surprising information inside the numbers. in the mailbox, u.s. marines now on the move, launching a major new offensive known as cobra as anger -- in the middle box, u.s. marines now on the move, launching a major new offensive known as cobra's anger, coming on reports that osama bin laden may have been spotted in afghanistan. in the bottom box, more trouble for tiger. if we will play you a new 911 call, none of them boding well for the world's no. 1 golfer. martha: president obama hitting the road today to talk about jobs as we get new unemployment numbers, and they actually came out a little bit better than expected today. there is a look of the new overall unemployment rate. the jobless rate down from 10.2% to 10%. at least in the right direction. 11th thousand jobs cut over the course of the month of november. 11 dozens of scud is the smallest monthly loss we have seen since the recession began. the president pointed to these -- 11,000 jobs cut is the smallest monthly loss we have seen since the recession began. president obama commenting on these new numbers during a speech at a community college outside allentown. >> i do want to keep this in perspective. we have still got a long way to go. i consider one job lost one job too many. \, and as i said -- [applause] as i said at a job conference yesterday in washington, good trends do not pay the rent. martha: major, talk was about what the white house is doing. he has a big speech yesterday and today in pennsylvania. what is the strategy for talking to america about this job situation? >> the strategy for the white house is to help congressional democrats, particularly those on the senate side. interestingly, in view of the health-care debate, which is finding its way through the senate, having the white house talk about jobs to give senate democrats some sense that their constituents can be reminded that the white house and soon enough members of the democratic majority in the house and senate will engage on the issue of jobs because senate democrats have made it clear to the white house that as they deal with health care, they need the white house to provide political cover on the jobs issue because poll after poll after poll shows that is an issue for constituents of this -- democrat, republican, and the all-important independents. the importance of jobs is being elevated from a public visibility standpoint to provide political cover for the democrats working through health-care reform. president is going to give what the white house described as a significant policy speech on tuesday where you will outline some of the job creation ideas. he wants congress to take early next year. among them, finances. robert gibbs said today he is using some of the unspent tarp funds so it will not add to the deficit, at least not largely. the president said whatever we do on jobs has to be a balancing act. very high federal deficits and very high federal debt. martha: thank you, as always. trace: for context and perspective, let's bring in eric bolling with the fox business network. it looks good on paper, but you have 16 million americans saying that we are long way from the light of the end of the tunnel. >> 6 million underemployed. we talked about it over the break. a friend who took the job at costco, and he may be way over qualified. about 20 million or 21 million people who are either unemployed or underemployed. the good is is it is only 11,000 lost. 10.0% not 10.2% -- going in the right direction. 23 months in a row of job losses. it is a long time during this recession has been announced for a long time. recessions average about 18 or 19 months. a lot of these jobs are going to come back, anyway, with or without the stimulus. by the way, 3.5 million jobs still lost since we signed a stimulus. trace: and it is the uncertainty that is so prevalent out in the job force. company saying that until they find what health care is going to cost, until they find out if unions will be pushed on them, until the final tax rates are going to be, they cannot afford to hire anybody. >> one more thing from the president's speech in pennsylvania, the people that stood up and say they need credit. they are small businesses and cannot get banks to loan the money. until credit starts to loosen up, they are going to be a little reluctant to take on more people. trace: eric will be on neil cavuto today at 4:00 in the east. martha: busy man. thanks. efforts to rein in the cost of the massive health care bill under way right now pure moderate senators teaming at an unveiling new bipartisan amendment this week that they say will hold down some of the costs and will improve the quality of health care. listen to this. >> the three of us present this with some confidence that it will strengthen health care reform, improve patient care, encourage a greater and more informed consumer choice, greater, more efficient health care delivery system, and contain bottom line, and most importantly, increasing cost of health care. martha: carl cameron is live in washington. it seems like every day we get a new version, a new take on this. tell us about this news conference, first of all. about what happened today. >> in terms of what has happened in progress in the senate, it is almost meaningless. they said they had an amendment. its action and not by partisan. joe lieberman argues it is nonpartisan. its sponsors say it is try partisan -- tri-partisan. they're offering of this a minute despite the fact that collins and lieberman both oppose the underlying health care reform bill. their amendment is to save money and cut costs, and set up a web page that would allow you to compare your physician to others in your community. it is not a standing opposition to the actual bill, and there is real hold up that they simply cannot fix. those are amendments that have not come to the floor because they have not found fixes yet. the public option, how to contain costs seriously, what to do about abortion, given illegal immigrants from getting taxpayer funded health insurance -- all of these things are the real sticking point that have prevented democrats from moving forward because they lack the 60 votes needed. until such time as they get those things fixed, they do not have amendments, so they cannot vote on those and move forward. that is the fundamental problem, and they are dead stop. martha: very interesting geared especially as major has been talking about the jobs front. carl cameron, thank you very much for that. trace: there is a new report claiming that osama bin laden is not only alive but still meeting with dollars. coming up, new information on where the most wanted man in a world may be hiding. and brand new revelations in the tiger woods case. new e-mails and newly released police tape. trace: 11 minutes past the hour. we are awaiting the verdict in the unmanned and knocks -- amanda knox trial. the verdict comes in, we will bring it to you immediately. america's mayor, now i hired gun in brazil. former new york mayor and onetime white house hopeful in the addition there right now appeared his consulting firm hired to help with security ahead of the 2016 olympic games in rio, the city plagued by violence. in the bottom box, gas prices finally holding steady. the national average now sitting at $2.63 per gallon. according to aaa, that is the same as it was yesterday and last week, and it is down slightly from last month. martha: there is a new report today that osama bin laden is alive and that he met with all was over the course of the past year. this is a huge report today, and the bbc is saying that a taliban detainee had contact to set up meetings him, and that contact had seen him as recently as january. he says the taliban leader is hiding in eastern afghanistan. meanwhile, new casualty's in the battle between the taliban and pakistan and the military there. at least 26 people were killed in multiple suicide attacks targeting a mosque near pakistan's military headquarters. scott is live in islamabad for us today. these attacks appeared to be well coordinated. what can you tell us about it? >> hello to you. we can update that figure, too. the least 36 people were killed. just on the corner, we know that of those 36 people who were killed, 17 of them were children. that is because this mosque caters to military personnel and their families. it was right in the middle friday prayers. we know also a two star general was killed in these attacks. way it unfolded, there were five attackers. they stormed their way into this mosque. four of them died during the attacks. ehud explosive tests. two were gunned down by guards. authorities tell us that one is still on the run. this is the latest in a string of attacks in the military headquarters for this nation over the last year. over 110 people have died in a string of six attacks, and also, just here in this, but earlier this week, the gate of the main navy complex, two naval guards were killed by a suicide bomber just on wednesday. again, we are seeing these attacks against military targets here in pakistan continue. martha: we mentioned that reports from the bbc about somebody having contact with osama bin laden. clearly, this took a lot of years today. how legitimate do they think this report is? >> there are still a lot of questions about it. it was a bbc reporter who spoke with a detainee. you told us earlier in the year on january or february, he said that he thatsheikh -- said that he met sheikh bin laden. there is no way to tell if there is after intermission, but a spokesperson said that a lead is a lead. obviously, anything that can get closer to capturing osama bin laden help many people become a world. pakistan has a vested interest in getting word out that osama bin laden is on the afghan side of the border. this is something they have been saying over the past several years. this man in their custody said this today, but again, this is just the beginning of the story. you can imagine that other countries' intelligence forces have been speaking to him or after this report today, they will definitely be talking to him. martha: very interesting. thank you. let's go over to the other side of the newsroom where trace is standing by to talk more about this with someone has some pretty good insight. trace: we are bringing in mike baker, former cia covert operations officer. good to see you. i want to get your take on this report that bin laden may have been spotted in afghanistan earlier this year. going back to the president's speech, he mentioned osama bin laden exactly one time. is it your sense that he is still a major equation in this light? not from operations standpoint, but certainly from a rally the troops more our point of view. bin laden is important, and would he be an important gap for us? yes, definitely, but bin laden sightings have been like elvis sightings ever since he went into hiding after 9/11. he has been sighted everywhere from afghanistan to pakistan to china. i think we need to take this particular claim by this detainee -- and yes, it is a lead and we do need to look at it, but i am skeptical. quokka trace: i want to point out just for the edification of our audience, since it also won, there have been 34 audio and video messages from osama bin laden as late as november of this year. clearly, there is the sense that bin laden is still carrying a great bit of influence in this fight. >> he is. he is the big sheikh, the lex luther of this war on terror. but at the end of the day, who is more important? what is outside elements in yemen or around a word, there are operational commanders who are making day-to-day decisions. bin laden sits at the top of the food chain, but he is more of a figurehead and a moral-booster, someone to rally the troops around. trace: week by week, we hear about this escalating violence. lot of focus on afghanistan. what does the violence being increased in pakistan tell you? >> unfortunately, it is not unexpected. the recent attacks at the moss, inside a fortified compound, by the way -- ever since mid october, the pakistani military really became aggressive in their efforts against the taliban, we have seen an increase in this violence and the taliban lashing out. this is not uncommon. there was a bombing in somalia were extremists attacked, and graduating medical students of all things, but what they're looking to do is call the population. they are looking to convince the military that they cannot win this battle. so i think the pakistanis are very smart, and they are making a serious effort year, but they understood going into this that the likelihood of an increase in violence from the taliban was going to happen. trace: a lot of factors in play. good to see you. thank you. martha: we have the latest twist in the tiger woods scandal. have you heard this one yet? what an e-mail to his alleged mistress reveals about what was actually going on. plus, new police states that have been released sunday car crash that really brought all of this to the forefront -- new police tapes. diarrhea, constipation, gas, bloating. that's me! can i tell you what a difference phillips' colon health has made? it's the probiotics. the good bacteria. that gets your colon back in balance. i'm good to go! phillips' colon health. martha: all right, another day and another new development in the tiger woods scandal. just two days after which issued a statement where he apologized for "transgressions," now, there is an e-mail that has come out. this is the latest between his alleged it mistress -- she still claims that nothing happened, and we did not hear her at a press conference. that is one of the pictures we have seen her. she is his good friend and president of tiger woods design. tmz is the one who obtained the mail. it says "here are the details for all the flights. sorry for all the changes. i look forward to meeting you." it is from byron bell, who works closely with tiger woods. e-mail list her itinerary for a flight to new york to australia where woods was in australia for a tournament at the time. this latest twist comes as we hear newly released tapes of the police interview with woods is a neighbor -- what's -- woods' neighbor. martha: the sheet that they're talking about is tiger woods' wife, so it was quite a scene. we hear that she was -- he was snoring. it is not the way you pictures. bill: not at all, and the imagination runs wild. it seems, and we think of the celebrities, but about every week we hear about a new scandal, anti there was was about the last man you would expect to be involved in a tawdry affair. that is a price of reality as many americans are thinking about our own heroes in our lives, the pedestal's the publicity will replace them, and whether in the and we just set ourselves up for continued disappointment. >> what happened? what's wrong? >> i have a neighbor. he hit the tree. it was an odd accident. >> all cultures, all societies have needed, wanted, created heroes, but our culture has taken it to another level. >> there was a time when only such scandals happen in hollywood. and people took that for granted. they were stars, and they were actors, and the rest of us do not live that way, and that has not been true for a very long time. >> andy warhol said that everybody will be famous for 15 minutes, but he soon added that everybody will get demolished in the next 15 minutes after that. >> whenever a big scandal erupts, there is always talk of role models and the people they let down, but when stars fall, do they really heard anyone but themselves? >> the idea that people are upset and hurt and broken hearted that tiger woods is less than perfect is a little silly. i think there is -- the emphasis is more toward he projects a certain image, and we buy products because of that image, and therefore, we feel betrayed. >> we should hold our political figures to much higher standard. >> i did have a relationship with the woman that was not appropriate. >> i am not gay. >> i have responded consistently to the tabloid allegations by saying i do not respond to these laws. >> americans can survive tiger woods and kobe bryant -- kobe bryant in sports, but i do not think we could survive that in washington, d.c. >> i do not think i consider that a celebrity. they are famous, but they are famous for different reasons. they have the position of being a role model but also being the face of the person who represents our country. you have a whole nother level of obligation, i think, to the people you represent, to represent them in a way that they can be proud of because that is a reflection of us. >> either way, can the tiger with scandal be, as some would suggest, a teachable moment? >> teachable moment? no, i do not think this is a teachable moment. i think it would teach the wrong thing, not unless what you want to teach is cynicism. >> it is a teachable moment, but we keep having them, and we do not seem to ever learn. >> sports has always been good at teaching kids lessons -- the more you practice, the better you get. we cannot have winning without losing. and, of course, as tiger woods has reminded all of us, even heroes sometimes have read a play. >> we should all be better people, noble citizens, better parents. no one is perfect. >bill: the sponsors are standing by him. gatorade, nike, all issuing support. martha: you talk about teachable moments, you think for him, maybe hitting that tree had to happen in one way or another because it would have just kept going, and now, he has to deal with it one way or another. bill: and he has two very young children that will mature sunday and have to think about this. martha: thank you. very good story. trace: president obama touting new unemployment numbers as a sign of better days to come for the economy, but will it be enough for democrats to keep their majority in congress when midterm elections roll around next november? we will talk to the presumptive republican candidates for senate in pennsylvania and his possible opponent. senator arlen specter and what could be a very ugly 2010 battle. ugcl) yeacl 's h fba icos y!tyft juneck yno itft'sse sut'cu tyftef (ckicli trace: it is the bottom of the hour. and new information now on three top stories. is the jobs in the unemployment rate bringing up the bulls? let's get to fox business network. >> the dow still hanging onto some of those earlier gains. stocks have been edging higher on some rather good news on the employment front. the latest monthly jobs report from the government showing that only 11,000 jobs were shed in the month of november. economists had been calling for 130,000 job losses, but some pleasant news there. the unemployment rate dropping to 10% from 10.2% in october, but as investors digest the news,? -- will the fed have to raise interest rates sooner than later? trace: sex, drugs, and murder. we are now awaiting the verdict in the amanda knox trial, the american student accused of killing her bridge roommate. let's get like to greg in italy. >> the jury went into deliberations about nine hours ago. we heard that it would take 12 to 18 hours, but those are just guesses. the real question -- whether or not they can get beyond a reasonable doubt in trying to see her charged with murder. the defense really going after the prosecution's case, trying to place some serious doubts in there. tonight or tomorrow, and clear. smart money says a verdict probably later tonight. trace: when it comes in, we will bring it to you live. mild in the northeast and snelling in houston. let's get live to the fox whether center -- snelling -- snowing in houston. >> we are going to continue to see it for the next couple of hours, and maybe 1 inch to 3 inches to be recorded today, making it the earliest snowfall on record. i want to take us through the next couple of hours. the snow here today, and it moves across areas like birmingham in the south. tomorrow morning, west virginia, maybe the nation's capital, seeing some snow. by tomorrow night, the first snow in new york's city and prissy dividend. some areas might see about 6 inches, and i have to tell you, another big storm behind this one. trace: that is brand new information at the bottom of the hour. martha: today in pennsylvania, president obama seems fairly pleased with the new jobless numbers that came out and says they were at least an indication that we are heading in the right direction. the unemployment rate retreating slightly in november to 10% now. last month, it was at 10.2%, so it ticked down just a bit, but surely, that is in the right direction. mr. obama says he has taken the tough steps to avoid what some economists feared could be a second great depression. listen to what he said earlier >> greater than from the moment i with -- listen to what he said earlier. >> from the moment i was sworn into office, i began taking steps to end this recession. i did not take them because they were popular or because they were particularly gratifying to me. they were not. you can be sure that when i was running for this office, things like saving the banks and rescuing automotive companies were not on my to do list. they were not even on my want to do list. [laughter] but i did them because they were necessary to save our country from even greater disaster martha: martha those are some of the remarks that the president made earlier in pennsylvania. pennsylvania is one of several states with a senate seat up for grabs in the next election. clearly, the penciling it looks very focused on the next election, and republican turned democrat arlen specter is one of those up for reelection. former congressman, who served three terms on capitol hill, joins me now. good to have you here today, sir. you heard what the president just said. basically, he was very encouraged. he said the numbers are headed in the right direction. he said we are down to 10%, not a good number, but at least the numbers are headed in the right direction. what do you think about that? >> certainly very encouraging numbers this morning. i was pleasantly surprised, but let's be clear -- i think it is a little early to celebrate. this is just one month of good data. we still have 10% of american workers out of work. to many pennsylvanians without jobs, so a long way to go. martha: and number of people stood up and talked about small business and how many still receive more credit and tax cuts, really. as he responding to those questions in pennsylvania? >> not so far, but i understand the president is here on listening to work. frankly, i am glad he is here. i think it's terrific that he is here, and i hope this is a sign that he is going to really start to focus hard on getting this economy moving again. i have to say i think that many of the steps that have been taken so far are not very constructive. bailing out failing companies, massive spending, unprecedented deficit and debt -- that is not the way to work your way back to prosperity. i have argued that we should stop the tarp bailouts, cancel the stimulus spending that has not been committed yet, and use the savings to reduce our deficit and cut payroll taxes. that would encourage job growth. martha: those are very popular notions among conservatives across this country. in terms of using the tarp money, one of the things we are expecting to hear about as he continues to store -- continues his tour, is that you use that money and put it toward some green jobs in this country. would you be in favor that? >> we have to be careful how much they decide the government should spend money to subsidize inefficient energy sources. if we are all forced to pay more for energy than we are paying now, we will have less resources available for everything else that we need. i'm not sure we need a new government spending program or government subsidy program. i think what we need is a little fiscal discipline, getting our spending in order of a sustainable trajectory, which it is not now, and then let the free enterprise system and private sector create the jobs that they can and will do. if they have that freedom and do not have these looming tax increases -- martha: i am about to talk to the man that you hope to run against just moments from now, senator arlen specter, and curious how you think things look in pennsylvania because a lot of folks in your position look at 2010 and say, "this is going to be my moment if the economy continues to look like it looks now." how good do you think your chances are that the pennsylvania citizens want to see change? >> i think my chances are terrific. a lot of people voted for change last year, and this is not exactly the change they had in mind. senator specter seems to change his mind every couple of days, whether it is the party is affiliated with, or his position on health care, taxes -- you name it. i think what we have is one party in complete control of the elected government in washington, and we are seeing liberal excesses. this health-care bill, cap and trade legislation, spending, so i would bring some balance to that and represent the common sense fiscal conservatives. martha: thank you for joining us today. good to have you. all right, now let's get to the other side. senator arlen specter joining me live from capitol hill. always good to have you. welcome back. >> thank you. nice to be with you. martha: i'm curious -- how does it feel now to be a democrat? you listen to republicans and your old colleagues talking about how they feel like there's just too much spending going on across the country with the health-care bill and the stimulus package and bailing out of these companies. the economy is in very tough shape. does it ever sit in a difficult way with you in your heart when you look at what is going on in this country in terms of spending? >> well, we were about to slide into a 1929 depression, and now, we see that the stimulus is working. the unemployment rate went down, best news since the year 2007. the congressional budget office found that we had 1,600,000 new jobs as of september 30 when the stimulus package had been in effect only for about 7.5 months, so we are on target -- martha: would you be -- >> that news is very good news, and even your last guest admitted that. martha: there's also some talk about new stimulus, even more money going in to be spent on stimulus. since you feel that it has been working, is that something you would be in favor of? >> no, i'm not because the current stimulus package has only been in effect for 10 and a half months. is a two-year program, so i think it is fine. what i would like to see done, i would like to see some of the bailout money that the banks are repaid in go to small business. small business is really important, and we have a health care bill now on the floor, which is going to be really helpful to small business, which has had their health-care premiums raised tremendously premium -- tremendously recently, so i think that will stimulate the economy. i think that when the unemployment rate comes down below 10%, that that is going to be a very strong sign. economic indicators have been positive. now, with the unemployment rate coming down, that is really good news. martha: two quick questions and not a lot of time. you have a tough race ahead, by all accounts, in pennsylvania. people are very concerned about jobs. if the people of pennsylvania tell you that what you want is for you to put health care on the back burner and get this job situation turned around in your home state, would you be willing to do that? would you be willing to say, "let's forget about health care for one year and focus on jobs in pennsylvania"? >> it is unrealistic to talk about putting health care aside when we are on the verge of getting it done. in my tenure in the senate, i have produced a lot of jobs for pennsylvania, and earlier this week, i was before the international trade commission on the issue a stop in china from selling steel in the united states, which is subsidized. as chairman of the steel caucus, with my seniority experience, we saved a lot of jobs. a few weeks ago, the international trade commission found in favor of the american industry attires -- of tires. i have been very productive on saving jobs and creating new jobs for pennsylvania. martha: i wish we had more time. can i ask you this? would you be willing to keep the bush tax cuts because of the economic situation we are in? >> well, i like the tax cuts, and let's see exactly where we are when they come up. you do not want to decide major policy questions on a sound bite, even for fox news. martha: we appreciate you trying to squeeze it in for us, and we hope you'll come back and talk about it some more. thank you very much. >> just invite me, and i think the answer to that is yes. trace: fox news now tracking your tax dollars. what if we told to the government was double dipping? charging you twice for the same road bridge? we will take you live to southern california. trace: fox news now tracking your taxes. this time, we're looking at toll roads. drive is getting hit with a double whammy because you are paying for some road twice -- once at the toll booth and again with stimulus tax dollars. william is a live for us tracking your taxes on the toll road in orange county, california. >> for the commuter, this will cost you about $10 a day, and to $200 a month, so on a regular basis, many commuters cannot afford it, and yet to all taxpayers, the stimulus money paid to maintain roads they cannot afford to use. the obama administration marked $27 billion in stimulus money for new roads and bridges. how it is spent is up to the state. >> out of $2 billion, 70% of it is going to toll roads in texas. it is an >> don't build our roadh stimulus money and charge us and told to ride on them. >> weather is fair is a hard question to answer. whether it is efficient -- the answer is yes. >> supporters argue that holds benefit all drivers by relieving congestion on all highways. >> the rest of us who may not really be willing or able to spend the money should probably be glad to get rid of those people. because they are in our way as we are driving down the freeway. >> so you can see this road is in very good shape, so you may not ask why the money is not going to a more deserving freeway? number one, the project was shelved already, and number two, the state agreed to take on responsibility for minutes, and third and most important, in many cases, they are leveraging federal money to build toll roads for state revenues. trace: thank you. martha: it is not quite the north pole, folks, but we are going to take you to a place where christmas is a big business. eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee martha: fox news on the job hunt in a christmas kind of way today focusing on seasonal jobs. it is a very big deal in washington county, maine. it is the christmas wreath the capital of the pine street -- pine tree state. this year, they need those jobs. unemployment in the county is about 10%, up some 7.5% just a year ago. forest cover some 90% of maine, a blanket of green that the state hopes to turn into a mountain of money. >> we are at the whitney wreath company, and this is where of the action is happening at this holiday time. they are the biggest christmas wreath company that does mail- order, the catalog, via internet. they sell qvc, but a big new contract with aloe been has helped them hire another 250 people -- a big new contract with ll bean. what is it like right now? >> things are very busy. we're having a great season and really enjoying ourselves. >> 250 additional hires -- what does that mean for this community? >> it is big for the local economy. the county's really depend on these jobs, and it is just absolutely fantastic. >> thank you so much, kevin mitchell, giving us a little insight into this holiday time. martha: i love that pine smell. four, you can go to -- for more, you can go to foxnews.com and click open court on the job hunt" annual get a new interactive map showing you everywhere we have gone so far to bring information on where the jobs are and which cities and states have been hit hardest by the economic times. you can click on colorado and see that the renewable energy industry is one of the fastest- growing sectors there. check it out. very cool. trace: everyone is going to ask what was the cat in had in the corner of the screen? go on to foxnews.com, and you will find out. an american student at the center of an italian sex game murder trial. the fate of amanda knox is now in the hands of a jury, and it could come at any time. whatever i did my digestive upsets came back. but then came align. only align contains bifantis, a patented probiotic. it promotes a healthier digestive system helping to restore my natural balance with ongoing probiotic protection. align brings peace to my digestive system and to me. try align and discover a world of digestive peace. martha: u.s. marines and afghan troops have launched a major offensive against the taliban in afghanistan. welcome back to a brand new our of the "live desk." [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- trace: hundreds of marines taking part in operation: cobra's anger. even bigger force is now pushing through the ground, all fighting to cut off taliban communication. martha: it is the first major offensive in afghanistan since president obama announced the surge. steve, how was this operation going so far? >> according to a spokesman on the ground in the helmand province, they have got a very good start to this operation, and it continues as we speak. about 900 marines on the ground have moved in in waves, dropping from airplanes and helicopters, early in the morning afghanistan time about 12 hours ago, and they are going door-to-door trying to clear this area of taliban. they say they surprised the taliban. they found them to be confused, bewildered, and simply not organized. it has not been much of their resistance. no big fire fight so far. they have found it a cache of weapons and fertilizer, ammonium nitrate, which could be used in explosives, explosives that could be used against u.s. and nato troops in december by an explosive devices. they have had some success so far, and the operation continues. martha: that is very good news indeed. talk about the significance of the v-22 being used in this case. >> they did use it to drop some of the marines behind enemy lines. the first time this airplane has been used this way in afghanistan. it was a controversial aircraft to begin with. has the capability of flying both horizontal like a fixed- wing plane, and then turn in the modems and flying like a helicopter up and down. this gives the marines' unique flexibility to go in fast and slow down and come in some place where there is not a long waiting strip, and they say it has performed beautifully so far. i are happy to have it. martha: that is interesting. use a very controversial, and it looks like in this case, they used it, and it did exactly what it was supposed to do. >> so far, it has performed very nicely. it was controversial because of the cost. martha: it is good they caught them by surprise. thank you very much. trace: despite losing about one- fourth of its members in the fort hood shooting, the wisconsin-based 64th medical detachment is said to deploy in afghanistan. major nidal hasan was supposed to go with them. the department of defense recently deciding that the 43 members of the army reserve combat stress would deploy as scheduled after the fort hood murders, soldiers from across the country volunteered to fill the spots left vacant by the three members who were killed and the six who were seriously blended. trace: and it -- martha: and deadly attack during friday prayers in afghanistan. terrorists stormed and moscow, and opened fire on the worshipers there. security officers fired back, and they blew themselves up. at least 35 worshipers were killed. we're told that many of them were children. 70 other people were injured in this horrific attack. this mosque is frequented by many pakistani soldiers and their families. authorities confirmed that some top military officers are also among the dead. martha: -- trace: developing this hour, fox news has confirmed that the white house has confirmed -- and the cia to go ahead to expand its use of unmanned military aircraft. they have been controversial overseas, but the program has been quietly called a success here at home, taking out a number of terrorist targets. catherine -- catherine herridge is alive for us in washington. what does this tell us about the administration's strategy? >> the expansion of the program is significant because a number of u.s. officials believe the drum campaign is the single most important weapon in keeping al qaeda and their leadership of balance in the tribal areas of pakistan. with this new information today, what is emerging is at least part of the obama administration's strategy in the region, and what we can see now is that there are at least two pillars on the one hand. you have the troops surge, the 30,000 troops in afghanistan, and on the other hand, he had the cia being given the ability to of the pressure, so you kind of had a penchant action on the border of afghanistan and pakistan. putting maximum pressure on the taliban and also on al qaeda. trace: we talked about the success of the program. i understand you have obtained a list of operatives that have been killed in last year. >> i obtained this list earlier this year, and i have now confirmed that at least 12 senior operatives have been killed in the last 18 months. among them are those who have tried to attack the united states or have been successful attacking u.s. interest overseas. among them two bombers, both men were wanted for the attacks on the u.s. embassy in east africa in kenya and tanzania in 1998. also within the last 18 months, a british citizen, who was the alleged planner of the liquid explosive bomb plot on aircraft in 2006. that was the plan to send aircraft from great britain to the united states with the idea that liquid explosive bombs would be assembled on board and the plans would be blown up once they were over u.s. territory. he is the one if you will who is responsible for the limitation of liquid in your carry-on baggage on the airplane. in closing, i will say the important point is that the program has been controversial because there have been civilian casualties, so u.s. officials today did not see me away from the number of just 20 in the last 18 months, but it is important to note that the campaign started under the bush administration. it was controversial then, and now, it appears that it will be expanded by the obama administration now. trace: thank you. martha: a lot of talk about jobs today with the president talking about pennsylvania, and we hear he is getting ready to unveil a new jobs plan to jump-start hiring across america. we will be talking about this in his speech next week in washington, some new ideas about specific ways to stimulate jobs. meanwhile, we have got the latest numbers from the government, and they are encouraging reporting that the jobless rate unexpectedly dropped in the month of november. that is the first sigh of relief down from 10.2% to 10%. at least in the right direction. so what are these numbers telling us? i guess who is getting these jobs? large numbers of people who have fallen out of the job market as well, who are no longer being measured in some ways, right? >> that is right. it is a complicated picture, but analysts say it may mean that the freefall in jobs have stopped, but it is not entirely clear. democrats are cautiously optimistic. [inaudible] we turned a corner, and job losses have steadily fallen for the past six months, and we have learned that the labor market remain stable in november. the trend is heading in the right direction. [inaudible] analysts note -- >> analysts note that many of the corrections were people just digging their toes into the labor market. martha: very interesting. we're looking at these numbers, and as you point out, there are a lot of people not getting the jobs they want or perhaps they are taking their jobs will be below their skill set in many cases. >> there are a lot of concerns because many people are underemployed, and millions of others have simply given up looking for work, what we call discouraged workers, and they do not even count in the unemployment rate. that is a worry for the house republican leader. >> one of the concerns we have on the number of people who quit looking for work. people who dropped out of the labor force. if you want to look at the real effect of unemployment rates, about 15%. >> and if things are looking better, many of those who quit looking for work because they could not find it would start looking again, and the numbers would look worse than they do now. there are not only discourage workers, but there are also discouraged employers or potential employers. there are a lot of uncertainties ahead of them. they give pause to people who might create jobs. there is talk of new taxes to pay for health care or taxes to pay for the war in afghanistan, the end of the bush tax cuts and incentives for businesses, and the nation's alarming debt, which makes people wonder if efforts to bring it under control will hurt them in higher taxes or inflation, which is why some say the latest report is good news but maybe not quite as good as it looks. >> this is again probably just a single -- it looks like trouble, but at the end of the day, there is so much about that number we're just not sure about. whether it is a one-time road #or whether it represents a powerful new trend. >> a lot of challenges ahead, and the numbers were all that good and it was all green grass from here on, the white house without a working up a new list of proposals for next week. martha: the president did say today there is still a long way to go. the continued work on that. thank you very much. trace: coming up, voicemail and e-mails came back to buy tiger woods, as you know, and now, the growing electronic trail that we leave behind every day and how it could come back to haunt us. plus, from a jail cell to a luxurious swiss chalet, a convicted child molester roman polanski now under house arrest in a beautiful alpine village. martha: let's check of some of the pictures we have coming in right now. in the top box, you see that man there. there is a massive manhunt under way for this man wanted in connection for four murders. two different mothers and their children. there is -- he is considered to be armed and dangerous as police are actively in pursuit of him. in the middle box, a different kind of story. a young giant panda who became a major attraction after being born at washington's national zoo, will be returned to china early next year, we're told. officials made the announcement this morning. there was supposed to be back in 2007, but we got to hang onto him for two extra years, and now, he is headed back to china. in the bottom box, a happy homecoming. what a relief for these guys. five british sailors were detained in iran, and now, they are back after their yacht trip into iranian waters. they are arrived at heathrow to the happy embrace of family members. everybody was just so relieved that they arrived safely. trace: cell phones, blackberries, myspace, e-mail -- all making it easier to hook up on the lowdown, but as tiger woods and many others around world are finding out, the digital age also makes it much easier to get caught. if former criminal investigator an expert in computer forensics joins us now. we already know that the e-mail and voice mail came back to haunt tiger woods, but not a lot of people realize that we leave this link the trail of electronics every single day in our wake. >> take a look at the history of this -- sarah palin's e-mail was allegedly hired by a congressman son. it goes on and on. paris hilton, miley cyrus andy cell phone hacker. when you send a message from your computer, it goes to a server, hops aboard the internet, goes to another survey, and those of finally and dozens of places where people can access it. trace: some of these wireless companies and so forth say they get rid of them after a certain amount of time, but the bottom line is they still exist somewhere. it is not like you can just throw them away. >> absolutely. they are housed in these major databases, and they probably have been cycled, but it takes so much time for them to cycle out that they could live there for more than six months. trace: there is an article on the "daily beast" talking about tiger's digital sec's tracked. -- digital sex trap. and that is the scary thing. there are people inside these companies, he says, and they are actually monitoring celebrity accounts and getting this information to various people. >> it does not take much. there is software that can send to a cell phone that monitors everything that goes on in the cell phone. it is a digital age, and here's the key -- if you cannot say it in for the person, do not put it in e-mail because private e-mail is an oxymoron. trace: it is gold for these companies because this is real time information on millions of americans, so why would you get rid of it when this is a great marketing tool for a lot of companies? >> no one is saying to not get rid of it, but not the private/personal messages inside these things because if you do not want people to see them, that is not the form for them because they will find the text messages and e-mail messages, and it is not hard. trace: that is a problem. good to see you. martha: he is wanted in united states, but for the time being, director roman polanski gets to return home to his wife and kids in europe. earlier today, he returned to the swiss chalet. he has now been released. he was moved from a zurich area jail to an undisclosed location before the transfer to house arrest. looks like a pretty nice place to hang out. switzerland says that the move was necessary for security and personal reasons. 76 years old now, roman polanski is. yields possible extradition to california where he could be sentenced for the rape of a 13- year-old girl back in 1977. he is sentenced to live in that show in when an electric monitor while he is there. wonder if he can go skiing. trace: ridiculous. a major global warming summit begins just a few days from now, but all the talk is about hacked e-mails from about some prominent -- from some prominent climate change activists. the federal government could be ready to step in and take over regulation of mass transit from the states. we will take a look at what this means for your safety. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx martha: now there's just days to go before the united nations climate change summit that will happen in copenhagen. there is still a lot of questions about the e-mails from the climate researchers suggesting that they fudged some of the data at odds with their theories on global warming. wendell has been on top of their story from the beginning, and he joins us with the latest from the white house. this has become a big story. >> it has. the head of the intergovernmental panel on climate change says the issues raised by the e-mails are serious and will be looked into in detail. where is that nothing will be priced under the carpet. east anglia university serves as the main data collected. britain's private secretary has found the e-mails will not be allowed to undermine the science of climate change and agrees that the american enterprise institute says the minister not undermine the science, but he says the allegations of data manipulation and suppression of used to raise some questions. >> there is evidence of exaggeration of the data, exaggeration of warming, too. there is evidence of exaggerated certainty, and more and portly, there was evidence that there was an intentional hiding of evidence, prevention of release of data under freedom of information act. >> some scientists say there is more consensus about global warming and manage responsibilities than any other environmental issues over the past 30 years. he says the scientists of east anglia pose a climate research unit has given all signs of a black guy and will bear a great deal of blame if the public loses faith in science. a poll released earlier this week indicates there is significant disagreement within the scientific community about man's responsibility for global warming, and that makes it difficult for the administration to sell congress on what is likely to emerge as the remedy in copenhagen. that is cut to america screen has gas emissions that may well make the price of energy more expensive, and aid to other countries so that they can both reduce their greenhouse gas emissions and cope with the rising temperatures. the president's budget of $1.2 billion for the current fiscal year. some lawmakers want to double that for next year. martha: very interesting debate going on. thank you very much. trace: the faa is now investigating a mid-air collision -- actually, a near- midair collision just days before thanksgiving. it happened near denver. a commercial plane breach the amount of space it was supposed to keep between two other planes. the plane was following an air- traffic controller's direction. the planes were forced to take evasive measures to head off a crash. planes from sky west, frontier, and republic airlines were the ones involved in the near miss. a recent string of subway and light rail accidents like this boston trolley crash last may -- remember this? convincing the fed to take on the responsibility of regulating its subway safety, but some are concerned there will not be enough money to carry a new safety mandates. brian wilson is live at the king street metro station in alexandria, virginia. how are subsystems regulated now? >> i did not really understand this until recently, but it seems that most subway systems around the country are regulated by the states, and there is no federal oversight. there is a long tradition of the federal government largely staying out federal government regulation and light rail regulation, but in june 2009, the department of transportation has been thinking about this. there was a bad crash in washington, d.c., area, and they began to wonder whether or not it was time for the federal government to step in and perhaps start providing some safety oversight. trace: who is for this and who's against it? >> i have been talking to people from different subsystems around the country, and they are cautiously optimistic about this. they have one concern. they say they are in the word about the government coming in and laying down mandates about things they need to do to improve safety. one organization that is definitely for that is the national transportation safety board. here's the ntsb chairman. take a listen. >> we believe that the need to be standards established, whether it is for track inspections or crashworthiness of their cars. we really think there needs to be some federal oversight in order to make sure that happens. >> they're very much on board, and they are the ones who were called in to investigate crashes. trace: when will this take effect? >> it requires a change in the law. there are hearings scheduled for capitol hill next week. there will begin this process and get testimony, but it does look like this is one train that does appear to be leaving the station. trace: brian wilson, live for us in alexandria, virginia. good to see you. martha: let's suppose you are on a commuter flight from chicago to salt lake city, and you hear some noise going on the plane. southwest airlines has just confirmed that a baby was born at 30,000 feet on their flight this morning from chicago to salt lake city. it happened about 90 miles, 100 miles north of denver. the woman's husband and all of her kids were on the plane, and apparently, there was a medical person on the plan as well, and they radioed for some help and assistance to help deliver the baby, but you know, this just goes to show you babies can basically be born just about anywhere, right? our producer is like, oh, my gosh, her husband was with her. imagine how much he is freaking out. it was a boy, by the way. trace: did they charge for the baby? martha: they said, "ltd., this is not a party of five." trace: a young american's whole life is now on . amanda knox pleading for an italian court to acquit her. >> to have the mask of the killer forced upon my face. trace: now her fate is in the hands of a jury, and they could decide any minute. we will go live to italy for an update next. you're the colon lady! diarrhea, constipation, gas, bloating. that's me! can i tell you what a difference phillips' colon health has made? it's the probiotics. the good bacteria. that gets your colon back in balance. i'm good to go! phillips' colon health. trace: back live in the newsroom. renew inflammation and two top stories. a couple of senators holding news conferences concerning health care. carl cameron is live for us in washington. >> they are rolling out amendments almost by the hour, but they are not getting much done on the senate floor. behind-the-scenes, democrats still do not have the 60 votes needed to end debate on health care and get to a final vote. these amendments are all meant to correct that and bring on democratic votes, but they are not making any progress. lawmakers plan to work through the weekend with no end in sight. trace: we have the very latest now on the h1n1 virus. the cdc just wrapping up a news conference. jonathan is live for us in atlanta. >> age 1 and lot activity continues to decrease, but -- h1n1 activity is going to decrease, but as the weather gets colder, people close together, so there is always the chance that the disease could spread more again. cdc still urging people to get vaccinated. vaccine doses of up to 73 million, double what it was last month, an ongoing safety studies by the cdc have found no serious side effects associated with h1n1 vaccine. trace:é=éñ brand new informatior you at the bottom of the hour. martha: now, to the trial of an american exchange student. amanda knox was studying in italy when this happened, and any moment now, the jury could announce that they have reached a decision. she and her boyfriend stand accused of the brutal murder of her roommate in what the prosecution claims was a drug- fueled sex game. both have denied any wrongdoing in this case. earlier today, her father appeared on fox news. he aggressively defended his daughter. the whole family in italy awaiting the verdict. he said his daughter did not kill her roommate, and when asked who did kill her, here is what he said. >> a person has already been found guilty and given 30 years. his dna, his hand prints, his footprints, everything of him was inside the room on meredith, all over the house, and for them to continue to pursue amanda and rafael as being part of it is beyond me. martha: the man that he was referring to is this man, now appealing his conviction. let's go to greg burke, who has been following this for us since the beginning. a lot of tension there. he said the family is very nervous about this outcome. >> yes, another thing he told us was it just turns your stomach around. he look prettycalm -- he looks pretty calm as you see him walking around, but the entire family quite tense. a couple of nervous journalists, to because it has gained so much british press. the key person in all of this, amanda. we really got an idea from her yesterday. in a very emotional plea, she talked about her fears. >> calm. i a --m n -- i am not calm. a few days ago, i wrote on a piece of paper that i was afraid to be defined as someone that i am not an by actions that do not belong to me. i am afraid to have been asked of a killer forced upon my face. -- to have the mask of a killer forced upon my face. >> we were also told that the jury would take 12 to 18 hours. they have been deliberating for 10 hours, but these are just guesses at this point. we really cannot go out -- cannot know. there has been some guess that it could even go through tomorrow. we just cannot tell at this point. it is obviously very difficult after a trial that began in january. so many things to go through, making the decision that affects the lives of two very young people. martha: hi do want to ask you one more question about the other charges that she faces. police have also accused her of sort of changing the scene at the murder to make it look like there was a break-in. how strong is the evidence on that? >> the prosecution made a pretty good case on that, saying there were pieces of glass that were on top of the crime scene, so basically, as if they threw a rock through the window afterwards to make it look like somebody broke in, but perhaps the more serious thing is what is called colony, which is more like sledder, and that is having accused a guy who had a very good alibi, so he was in jail for a little while but then let out immediately, and that might end up being a little more serious -- the more serious to calumny, which is like slander. martha: it is very interesting. when you look at this case, you know, when i ask people around the newsroom whether or not they think she is guilty, people are very on the fence >>. that is the point. certainly not going to make it in the bond market right now. there is a lot of risk there. martha: talk to me about what you think is going to happen >>. one of the things we're looking for right now are companies that have strong, reliable growth. martha: i think we have the wrong guess here. want to stop you before we get too much further. it looks like we have pulled up something from fox business channel, so we are giving a hint of what is going on a fox business channel. can we get fred casey of, or do we want to do something else? there is spread f --red --there is fred. i was thinking i just saw fred yesterday, and he looks really different now. no insult to the gentleman who just joined us. so let's get back to you. talk to me about -- what do you think? do you think amanda knox is guilty in this case? >> it is funny. i think there's a lot of questions as to whether or not she is guilty. first of all, the dna evidence was less than overwhelming. yes, heard the and it was there, but she lived in the apartment. i understand that the evidence on the murder weapon was -- there was serious reasonable doubt. i will tell you something, i have only said this -- a long trial date is the defendant. i have always said that if the o.j. simpson trial had gone two weeks, i would have been some -- i believe there would have been much better chance of conviction. a 10-month trial for a crime that was over in about an hour i think really favors her, and the italian authorities, the evidence of motive was less than overwhelming. her motive was that she thought her roommate was smug or the amanda was a mess and the roommate was very neat. at the people in america would be dead by now that was a motive. martha: the concern is that the boyfriends dna was on the handle, that meredith's the and it was on the tip of the night. the father says there are a lot of good reasons for that, but that makes people wonder. >> it does make people wonder, but part of the defense i would run is why would i take the murder weapon, my knife, which i believe was found in his apartment? secondly, that knife did not really match the wound. there was reasonable doubt as to whether or not that knife -- and the boyfriend and amanda had always been in the apartment, as had the roommate, so the fact that all three of their dna is on a knife that ostensibly may have been in the apartment to me still is not beyond the reasonable doubt and does raise reasonable doubt. martha: quickly because i have to go, and italian jury, beyond a reasonable doubt, is there any different measure we should be aware of, or is it very similar to what we have here? >> i think it is very similar to what we have in the u.s. i understand there are two judges on the jury, and they understand the standards. we will see what happens. i am on the edge of my chair. martha: thank you for joining us. good to have you here. trace: but if you do not have the fox business network, demand it. we keep hearing the recession has been bad news, but we have one very bright spot straight ahead. >> that is right. even during tough economic times, the sec continues to thrive. that was bad. details coming up. ugcl) yeacl 's h fba icos y!tyft juneck yno itft'sse sut'cu tyftef (ckicli and when my symptoms-the coughing, wheezing, tightness in my chest came back- i knew i had to see my doctor. he told me i 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(announcer) if you cannot afford your medication, astrazeneca may be able to help. trace: many colleges and universities are taking a big hit in this recession, but some schools with popular football teams are making in the cash. why is sec football doing so well even in this tough economic times? >> in a word, it is the fans. they come out. they are willing to spend the money, especially when it comes to supporting their favorite teams. also, to further solidify that, they're just awarded a $3 billion contract by cbs and espn to cover its games. that is the largest tv contract in college football history. we talked to the university of georgia athletic director, and he says a successful football program helps the entire school, not just athletics. trace: but still, how can these schools justify paying coaches these huge salaries? >> well, you know, that is an interesting question. the coaches of both alabama and florida are two of the highest- paid coaches in the entire college football program here when we talked to the athletic director, he says when you contribute to the football program, pay the coach is more money, you get more fans, and it is just this constant action, this constant money being poured into the schools. when it comes to conferences like the sec, and public schools do well, and every school trace: benefits thank you very much. -- every school benefits. trace: thank you very much. of course, we do not -- we do know why the conference does so well. martha and shepard are in the newsroom. martha: is your team in the conference? shepard: it is, and we're playing against all listed in the cotton bowl. you know about these videos yah intooo! a -- that were sent to yahoo! and google? something about the man who secretly recorded video of the espn reporter. they said in these search warrants, and they are cooperating, so what does that mean for all the rest of us? they know a lot about our search habits, and i'm not really all that personally concerned about it, but it is a fine line. martha: your search habits are okay? shepard: i search for a lot of tiger woods and stock meltdowns. martha: i search for remote control flurries, little ones, like this, the other day. shepard: he mentioned -- trace? that is his name, right? he mentioned sec football, and we will be previewing the championship game, which is between florida and alabama, so we know it is at the georgia dome tomorrow. you should watch it. martha: i will. i love football. shepard: we have a couple of great gift for that, so tell us. i am trained and programmed to hit them both, but i am fired up about this game. i cannot wait to see it. alabama and florida. i think florida wins, but what do i know? martha: i think so, too. trace: i know the cannot hear me, but i'm with him. florida is the best team in the country. shepard: nebraska could be texas, and then you figure texas plays the sec when a, and then, we'll know -- or we will win. trace: just for the record, i said florida wins. imagine "he saysachoo? -- imagine if you said "achoo" thousands of tons in london. one little girl has been dealing with sneezing, 12,000. her mystery illness has finally been diagnosed. we will tell you the cost and if she can be cured next. can i tell you what a difference phillips' colon health has made? it's the probiotics. the good bacteria. that gets your colon back in balance. i'm good to go! phillips' colon health. trace: a 12-year-old virginia girl who has been sneezing up to 12,000 times a day finally has been diagnosed. she started sneezing constantly after she had a bad cold last month. machine gun seasons, they call them. now, her doctor says she suffers from a disorder that may have only been discovered 13 or 14 years ago. it is called pediatric autoimmune near a psychiatric disorder, pandas, right? associated with streptococcus. joining us is foxnews.com's house manager. crazy. 12,000 times a day, like machine guns. that is eight seasons per minute of the day. >> this disease is relatively new, but a lot of kids have been diagnosed with this. basically, your body goes a little crazy, you get a strep infection. your body begins to fight this trap, but it also creates an autoimmune this response. in other words, your body begins to attack itself. would you begin to o is somecd changes in the skin -- would you begin to see is some's changes in these kids. -- some ocd changes. as soon as you to sleep, she did not seize any more. what happens is once you make the diagnosis based on the physical attributes of the disease, the doctors can go ahead and give antibiotics and hopefully, it goes away. but if you look statistically, about 25 percent of kids with obsessive compulsive behavior is, especially in the -- between the ages of 3 and 11, that have these acute on said with some irritability and some funny movements sometimes of the hands and face, it is all due to this panda disease. martha: the treat the strep just for a long time? >> you have to take antibiotics for several weeks at least, but it does tell you one thing -- doctors, pediatricians for sure, have been sometimes very careful in giving antibiotics to children because we have the over utilization of antibiotics. i get it, but this tells parents that they suspect kids have any kind of infection, it is better to it -- if you have struck, you are going to get antibiotics, it is better to take your kids to the pediatrician because, like in any case of under diagnosis, you can get this disorder, but also, you could get things like a the secondary effects including kidney and heart problems. trace: is the ocd link to this panda's? if so, is there an antibiotic that can take care of it down the road? >> once you start dealing with the infection, but getting chronic antibiotics, the inflammatory response you get in the brain begins to minimize, and your modeling in system begins to suffer regulate. when you look at ocd in adults, it is not associated with any sort of viral or bacterial infection. this is more associated with kids. martha: very interesting. thank you very much. we are hearing a lot of outrage on capitol hill over those white house party crashers. now, there is no criticism leveled at the white house from within the democratic party. that is coming up on "studio b." . 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