not to participate. political debates are not in the american constitution. they are a great tradition i guess, but they have evolved to the point where two candidates on stage, you expect elucidation of these issues and instead they are ripping each other apart. is that what debates are for, ron desantis decided his job is to tear down nikki haley in front of iowa voters. is that a good look? kyle was out there. ron desantis can go into a room, talk for an hour, people say i really like this guy, goes on to the debate stage and is an attack dog, different entity. paul: what is at stake for desantis? >> everything is at stake. he came in and said i'm going to win this race.