eight years it was over 38%. president reagan recognized the importance of human capital, of how critical our people are. it was president reagan's vision that brought me into the service. i under-- i went to military academy in 1982. i remember 1979, many of us remember when desert one fell in iran. remember that disastrous raid. here we are, 40 years later, we're able to pull off the raid, kill the leader of isis because of how far the country has come. ensuring we have highly capable, ready forces with cutting edge technology. that's what we're about. >> the very last question. what's it like working for president trump? >> i have a very good relationship with president trump. we have a great national security team. you called out robert o'brien there. my classmate, secretary pompeo and i have a good relationship. it's a good, strong team. the president is always open to