establishes the smoking gun for the democrats. shown a lot of insinuation the president was pressuring these people. i would say one final thing, and allre the reporting about this, when they finally say what did we get today in these testimonies, what they got was pressure for the ukrainians to announce an investigation. rather than undertake an investigation, that's going to be a crucial distinction when they get to the trial. >> whether or not the president was testified in seeking ukraine to ask for an investigation for hunter and joe biden to dig into what happened. you think that was testified. >> i think a lot of people are trying to figuree out a lot of people weret making a lot of assumptions about what trump wanted.