region and not in national security interest. >> we have the united states withdrawing from the jcpoa which you yourself didn't vote for. and iran is countering by shooting down american drones, firing missiles and launching drones at saudi oil facilities, i mean, they are in a shooting war, so is this -- if you let somebody fire at you and you don't shoot back, are you not showing weakness? >> john, here is the fault of the trump policies, before we withdrew from the iran nuclear agreement, there were conversations with the europeans about strengthening the sanctions against iran for the nonnuclear violations, we could have had the international support and tightened the economic pressure against iran, but still stay within the nuclear agreement. by pulling out of the nuclear agreement, it's the view of europe that this is an american problem rather than an international problem. >> but you know the argument,