or can we do it offshore? >> i mean, my own experience in doing this when i was in u.s. special operations, it's a lot easier to do it when you have assets in place in that country. is so if we were to keep a small number of forces, for example, at bagram air base, able to fly intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance aircraft, that would be much easier. and then to strike those targets with limited assets in the country and try to bring them in and get permission to bring them in from the outside. paul: there's been a big debate over what to do with the imprisoned isis fighters who have been caught, captured by our kurdish allies. the kurds don't want to keep them in syria. they want them to go home, but the europeans haven't been willing to take them and try them and contain them there. is that -- are those likely to be released in syria if the europeans don't take them? >> i think they certainly are. there are 70,000 or so