like -- where he was growing increasingly unhappy with -- of his team, you know, me. i was less involved at this point, but still me. growing increasingly unhappy with justin clark and that paved the way for justin to be moved out and others moved in as the person in charge of the legal side of the campaign and for all intents and purposes -- [inaudible] >> now when mr. stepien became campaign manager he was the second trump campaign manager for the 2020 race and there were only about 115 days until election day. let's play the video.