none of that is going to work. doug, this does though seem like a hill the democrats are going to die on or are they going to cut their losses here? >> well, if i was making the decisions, which i'm not for the party, i would tell them this is not a hill to die on. this is not an issue on which power at the highest levels should be determined. and it seems sort of axiom attic to me that biological sex at birth should determine where people compete. why would you put a party and an election at steak for something like this issue? i can't understand it. >> laura: now we can move on to 2024 and i think this story is pretty interesting because democratic jitters are apparently growing over cornell west third party bid for the white house, especially because a recent nbc news poll found 44% of registered voters say they're