may be not. >> they have been very clear, a lot of our banks are investing in this new chinese system. they talk about it, jamie dimon is the leader. he talks about we need to get used to be number two in the world now. larry fink, david solomon, they are expanding their investments in china. our trade is increasing. >> laura: just like with the coming lockdown -- soft lockdowns because we are not going to have travel as much with gas prices, get used to being number two. everybody gets a trophy in that world. do seo. >> bad news, sorry. >> laura: managing our declin if what happened in wuhan isn't a sign we need to stuff under a dangerous virus experiments, what these dangerous labs in ukraine that are now under threat? >> ukraine has a biological research facility which in fact we are now quite concerned russian troops, russian forces may be seeking to gain control of. >> if there's a biological or