the kyiv airport. if the ukrainians are able to hold off the russians and inflict a blood he knows have at least a victory there and booger up russian plan so to speak, that may give part to european leaders and may cause some problems internally in russia. it remains to be seen. the next few hours, the effectiveness of the initial onslaught is going to really tell us the story of the ark of this conflict. >> trace: you talk about the next few hours being critical and how long does it last? are we talking about the next few hours going into the next few weeks, or the next few hours going into the next several days? what's the timeline on when people feel like there might be some light at the end of this ukrainian-russian tunnel? >> there isn't any light in the very near future. if, in fact, the ukrainians are able to mount something of a defense in the russian initial strikes were not as effective as