and remains a real problem. but for some reason, that part of it never gets discussed and suddenly it's out. by the way, the cdc released new guidance for testing that i think is only going to confuse a lot of people more. as noted in the labeling for authorized over-the-counter antigen tests, negative result should be treated as presumptive negative results. they do not rule out a covid-19 infection. dr. risch, so negative doesn't mean negative? >> well, i'm not exactly strong on the whole testing regime anyway. the whole point of this is cases only know what population of the community you have. they do not count how well you are managing the pandemic. the advantage of the pandemic by reducing hospitalization, by reducing deaths. that is all that matters. so the people have to be treated as high-risk and otherwise, they do well. there was a lot of over-the-counter stuff that