doctor fauci -- risk strategy. anyone who reads the great barrington declaration, go look online, there is not -- that phrase does not appear in it because the central idea of the great benton declaration is protection of the vulnerable, a thousandfold difference in the risk of severe outcomes. we know the elderly and old people in certain people with chronic diseases have high risk of bad outcomes if infected, the great benton declaration said let's focus on protecting those people. at the same time the lockdowns were harming so many other people especially kids who were locked out of school especially for kids and so we argued for opening up society for the rest while protecting the vulnerable. what i was expecting was an honest discussion. instead what we got was lies from the head of the nih. absolutely shocking. >> did you think they would target you? they want to, quote, devastating response and takedown of what you were advocating, it wasn't just you.