the other reason they are using this tactic is to win back some ground among white women in the suburbs, the northern virginia suburbs where they've lost ground on the education issue, that is the beating heart of the democratic coalition, without suburban women in african american voters, women in particular terry mcauliffe is not going to win the race tomorrow. ibly19 according to jeff is only mcauliffe is really down because biden's massive spending bills haven't passed yet. >> no doubt president biden saw lower approval rating now in the commonwealth and elsewhere is contributed to the sense of malaise among democrats, unable to pass an infrastructure bill, unable to pass a broader reconciliation bill, it definitely has contributed to lack of positivity about the direction of the country. ibly19 have you seen evidence biden's agenda is hurting democrats in virginia and elsewhere? >> when the president's job approval rating is 43% in virginia it is not helpful to democrats.