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are distorting the numbers. they are adding up over a period of almost two years and how many deaths have occurred and they are claiming that that is larger than the number of deaths in a single flu season which lost a couple of months. but when you look at the percent which modality, the percent survival, in california, the last flu season data, 5.4% of ds were in kids. 0% of covetous have been in kids in california. nonzero desk, but 0%. you look at florida, 0% deaths have been in kids. when you look at all the cdc data -- we shouldn't even be having this discussion. >> laura: it's outrageous. >> is frightening or having this conversation at this point. i don't understand what is happening. we are either living in a society that believes in facts or we are not. no matter how many times people claim the earth is flat, the earth is round anime how many

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