the only in person meeting he had according to the vsv away was a relatively junior climate negotiator. joining us now is american surveyed union chair. in washington times opinion editor. china at first insulted blinken and company in alaska with that little deal about race relation and the united states. they hover over taiwan, and now carrie goes all the way over there, and they snub him in biden rewards them with a 90 minute phone call. they are just laughing at us. >> just absolutely laughing at us. it's important to remember that john kerry and joe biden our tw of the greatest foreign policy experts democrats have ever created. remember, not only was carrie the secretary of state, the whole reason biden got picked t be vice president and the first place was because of his vast expertise when it comes to