took that strategy from iraq that worked pretty well in iraq and moved it to afghanistan and it didn't work in the tribal country of afghanistan. we lost the initiative then and you're absolutely right, our troops should not be focused on nation-building or jeffersonian democracy, we should be focused on accomplish in the mission. >> laura: there is a really disturbing piece out in the national interest published a couple days ago, the title of it is "is the woke u.s. military going the way of 1940s france?" the piece goes on to say america has become what france was in 1940, a paper tiger run by an impenetrable bureaucracy that lacks any strategy for decisively defeating the nation's external enemies. the question here is we haven't won a war with all of our money and all of our fighters who are incredible people, we haven't won a war outright in 77 years.