knowing this is the case, doctor anderson and his colleagues were assuring their readers of something they could not know. of course the ingraham angle and a few others were constantly pushing the origin issue long ago. here is my february of 2020 exchange with fauci on the issue of china's transparency or lack thereof. we are sitting around saying could have been caused by a rabid bat and don't know because there was an level 4 lab in the vicinity, i am surprised you would say that given what we know about china's pattern of lying about critical issues. >> the chinese scientist we have dealt with, i have dealt with myself for years if not decades, many of them have trained here in the united states, i have faith that they are not distorting things. laura: you are satisfied with all the transparency coming out