communicated. he is out in california. we communicated a couple times. but look, there is zero, zero, zero evidence of any assertion being made. i'm not going to go into it now. nobody has ever asserted that i did anything wrong except he and what that fellow's name? rudy giuliani? >> laura: that was biden sticking by his story, there's nothing nefarious at all about his son's business in ukraine. but ukraine is only one country that young hunter attempted to exploit. a reporter who was with the bidens in china 60 years ago now kind of realizes that something was perhaps a mess. nbc national politics reporter writing today, throughout the week long trip, hunter biden team to duck in and out, sometimes joining his father at arrival ceremonies.