well, republicans are trying to play nice. they are the ones that are playing nice with that kind of rhetoric and all that rhetoric does is to ensure that they get on tv while somebody writes an article that quotes them or something like that. >> laura: or, herman, they get a fancy perch had "new york times" and they become a house conservative. there's nothing conservative about these people, they long gave up their conservative credentials. by the way, john kasich, hewas e didn't even show up for the national convention. he was a governor of this state when it was in cleveland.didn'to that. he's now mouthing off about how he was the first one to really doubt trump. watch. i >> i call him out more than anybody, and i have been doing it. >> i know you have. >> i didn't have like a changeoi used to support him and now i