but, the one thing before i jet on this because it's really important. whenever you ask a democrat this question never give an answer i asked on my show "unfiltered" shameless plug. what's the questions into de facto bankruptcy. i don't know and you don't know either. brey yeah, that's my point. don't you think we should probably take it a little slow now that we have no idea when the de facto bankruptcy comes? because it happened in are a general teen that and venezuela and elsewhere. it's not like this is unprecedented. they keep spending and it's an insult to drunken sailors everywhere. >> jesse: we have a drunken sailor right here. richard fowler please respond to dan bongino's assessment that it's just worthless to spend 3.5 trillion while we can't even keep track of the money that's still gone out? >> richard: number one, i don't think the final bill will end up being $3.5 trillion a far smaller amount. number two, i think what biden did in meeting that we just saw there was let some air out of the room so the actual