of the process. i just want to be cautious as an american that we not in search of a deal do something that could be -- >> dana: taliban is actually never broken off with al qaeda. >> exactly. >> lawrence: they never are. when you look at american foreign policy and when it comes to finding allies and we have always had some type of inroad within terrorist organizations. even if you look at the kurds, there is some factions of them that are affiliated with terrorist organizations. yet, we still consider them as allies. again i think it's problematic either way and it's always been. when i look at the president and what he decided to do partly the reason why this worked is because the media was after the president. the fact that you see people talk about him golfing and all of this stuff and they played into this. those reports were almost shields for the president. >> that's a tough time after the president has gone on the offense. >> dana: did seem like none of the reporters.