[laughter] will be due as we work with different zoos, breeding program, when they get older they will be paired up with other sand cats. >> are they endangered? >> these are not, but when we talk about all the different animals we have at the columbus zoo, 11,000 animals, 800 different species, a lot of them are highly endangered and that's how we work together. >> say good-bye in the take gmac cap voice, please? >> good-bye. >> in big cities come people who have to deal with rodents in the alley, they are getting feral cats. would you want to do that with one of these? >> no. no. >> you definitely don't want to be -- the best place for a sand cat is at the zoo are out in the wild, you don't want to try to have one for yourself. >> not a patch but to go after