multinational global business dealings going on while their dad is in the white house. i think last year the prophets were between 29 and $135 million. property is being sold. father has never divested himself of the trump company. we don't hear anything about it and they don't speak about it. it seems to me that's the ongoing. >> jesse: are you comparing hunter to john jr. and ivanka and eric? do you think they are at the same level? >> juan: are you kidding? this is corruption. >> jesse: do you think hunter biden is at the same professional and business level as the trump kids? >> juan: i see what you're saying in terms of expertise and knowledge, yes. >> jesse: i would disagree strongly. >> dana: hunter was fairly defensive in the interview but i think at some ways for good reason. he knows that his dad has been losing -- going down and most of the polls. elizabeth warren is considered the front runner. there's a lot of pressure on him