media has been doing it and other people have been saying that biden has lost his step. i will be the one to do it. he chose his moment but he was wrong about the moment. if you are going to do that, you have to nail it and there could have been other opportunities for him to do so. the crowd didn't really like it. the rest of the people didn't like it. what joe biden is able to do now is fund raise off of it. the thing is, i thought about this, one of the things we didn't play much sound from bernie sanders. so this is the third debate where now we have analysis and nobody is talking about bernie sanders. he hasn't had a moment. he maintains his poll average but i think that's about as far as he is ever going to get and elizabeth warren basically acts like a general election candidate. >> jesse: same thing. not a lot of news from warren either did. anybody distinguish themselves or stand out in any way gut get i thought i did. i'm watching the mainstream media rushing to defend this old white male against this