i don't know that adictator who is killing people by the minute will see it as somebody he can sit down with trust, b, get anything done with. >> we shouldn't trust president putin. >> harris: you want to deal with him. france's president said -- >> you need to be able to negotiate. >> absolutely. >> harris: macron has said he wouldn't put it the way biden did because he macron is talking with putin. our pentagon says putin won't take our phone calls. >> he has been rallying nato and the western world. >> harris: not much has changed since he gave that talk. >> who said president bidden has done more for the ukrainian people than any president before him. he has rallied the western world against president putin.