concerned we will hold those responsible accountable and on l.a.'s soaring murder rate the same spokesman suggested we compare l.a. to other southern california counties such as san bernardino, which has a more conservative d.a. and higher murder rate. a line of defense, harris, that seems to boil down to sure, a lot of people are getting killed here but it is even worse over there. we'll see if d.a. gascon pursues that same line of defense later today. >> harris: that's so nonsensical and won't work. we got this in, jonathan. thank you very much. abc news is reporting 12 major cities now have hit all-time homicide records. and an official with police there that they talked with it's just crazy. i want to bring in the vice president of the los angeles association of deputy district attorneys.