david college media studies professor and podcast host. but digging into their backgrounds shows that fisher actually worked for cnn politics in 2013, one refused to say sunday that cnn has lost trust in the wake of the scandal. i want to say sometimes you get the fact checking if you have a journalist talk about a journalist leaving. it seems muddled. he is part of the media team, brian stelter. >> this show and brian stelter does the spin, he does the control after some story gets out that might look bad for cnn. he has always been that voice. i don't know why anyone expected something different this weekend. they lean into voices no one has heard of. it would get less attention. >> harris: except for the one who used to work for cnn. >> you had don lemon who constantly defended chris cuomo.