from the taliban's perspective it is an opportunity that count be passed by and the problem is the biden -- they had no plan b. they were briefed that this could happen but they had no plan what do we do if the taliban actually attack us as we're leaving? and that's why we are where we are. >> harris: you and i both know those generals had plan b. it was something the military are amazing for but you have to listen to them. i want to get to this. general jack keane said a short time ago at the taliban taking over kabul. >> c17s are attempting to fly out of the kabul airport. it is a stark reminder of what defeat really looks like and the suffering that people are going to experience as a result of that defeat. when it really gets down to it this taliban victory we're seeing right before our eyes is something president biden truly owns. >> harris: wow. did you hear that, walid fare