with the process which the known was held up temporarily. okay? three issues for that. the corruption of the country. whether or not the countries are participating in the support of ukraine and whether or not they were cooperating in an ongoing investigation with our department of justice. that's completely legitimate. mr. kent, were you aware of any formal department of justice cooperation request made to the ukrainians? >> i am not aware that there was any formal department of justice request in this matter, no. >> was mr. mulvaney's statement false? >> i think you would refer that question again to the department of justice since i don't have full knowledge of whatever they may be working on. >> just about an hour before the two of you sat down to testify today the president tweeted multiple times about this hearing and he put in all caps never trumpers. mr. kent, are you a never trumper? >> i am a career nononprofessional serves whatever president carries out the foreign policies of that president and the united states. i have done that for 27