>> dana: hold the technology above their head? >> i -- if you keep them busy enough and give them a lot of activities -- my daughter and son would rather do color and crayon time with dad -- >> dana: if you're traveling -- >> i try to keep the games educational. i won't allow them on youtube. i control as much as they see. you know, you can't leave them alone on social media. it's not the baby sitter. that's the one concern. kids get exposed to things not quite ready to see and shouldn't see. >> dana: what about for somebody like mark zuckerberg who started this in his dorm room. i heard his success described as catastrophic one time. like catastrophic success and now the company is big. he had been in a credibility deficit for a while. now everyone is coming after him. the left, the right, all types of groups. what do you think about his decision to now have more of a public posture for the company?