fisherman here -- [laughter] who in the break was very fired up about this, perhaps more than i was fired up about the border. i want to talk about what this entails for, you know, the city folk that don't really know what a fishing competition is or understand how they were able to do this, how the weights got in the fish. please break it down for us, joey. >> first of all, you have to look at this and say remember the tom brady inflated footballs? think of this on steroids, and that's what this is. these are two men at the top of this sport, and it is a sport and activity that millions of people around the country, not just the south, the midwest, outdoorsmen take part in. this is the top level, this is the mlb steroids camp, this is the tom brady deplait if -- deflated football scandal, this is the bicyclist taking steroids, that's what this is. >> men competing in women's sports. >> fair enough. but this is cheating, and it's cheating in the worst way because it's egregious. when you do these fishing tournament, you go out, you're