in two. one, an area to the east that russia controls and, two, an area to the west that ukraine holds on to. is that the sense that you're getting on the ground? >> well, it would seem like a strategic move here to sort of break this land corridor that many of us have been talking about here. russian forces right now are in crimea which ukrainian officials still considered an occupied territory that's essentially theirs, so they're trying to kind of connect everything from the east all the way down from mariupol and also control the coastal port towns along the black sea. >> hey, jeff, lara trump here. just wondering, i feel like for so many of us watching from around the world it's really felt like that russia was far overestimated in this war, and ukraine was very, very much underestimated especially when we hear things like the fact that russia is retreating. of course, that could be a false