land. what has he done to deserve to be president? is he inspiring, does he give great statesmanlike speeches, is he securing our country from enemies without and within. izzy building up her institutions, is he encouraging young people to embrace our country and learn our history and our principles? is he bringing peace and prosperity to the country? is he doing things about crime in the inner city that are effective, what the hell has this guy done throughout 50 years that has been positive for this country, nothing. nothing. i will see you next time on "life liberty and levin". ♪. trey: good evening and thank you for joining us i am trey gowdy. it is "sunday night in america". revenge is the best served cold but should always be on the menu? >> we can have the stuff go one. when biden goes out, everyone says bye-bye and then he gets indicted two days later and they go after him, the country does not want that. they didn't want it with hilary clinton either. i want to bring the country together. trey: some republicans and right-wing commentators are openly calling for retribution. for what alvin bragg and fani willis and other prosecutors have done, some are encouraging republican prosecutors, present and future to target democrats with an eye for night. to be sure one spiritual leader noted an eye for night leaves the whole world blind but it also ruined your justice system which ruined your country, simply turning the other cheek the high road does not serve as a deterrent, what is the right response when you been wrong the left and the media would understand the origins of the anger. it's very hard to become president, less than 50 people have ever done it in to have a cloud placed over your presidency because law enforcement and intelligence officials did not like you and manufactured a russian influence fantasy by the dnc that is anger and retribution provoking, then trump was impeached twice which leads some to want impeachment for the current president in retaliation and trump was indicted before the grand jury including the case in new york that never would've been brought against anyone else the media could have a law find effective what company. instead it exacerbates the problem rather than shun the likes of peter strzok or indy mccabe, john brennan, andrew wiseman and jim comey, the media hires them and gives them a platform in a paycheck for their bias and laughs at their double standard. >> if you look at the white house now it's hard to imagine two fbi agents, how did that happen. >> i sent them all. >> something i probably wouldn't have done or gotten away with in a more organized investigation more organized administration, the fbi wanted to send agents into the white house itself to interview the senior official and you would work through the white house counsel and discussions and approvals and who would be there and i thought it's early enough let's send a couple of guys over. trey: laughter at disparate treatment and treating republicans differently from democrats. laughter at unfairness. and you wonder why the victimize no longer value fairness as a virtue. here we are tempted to treat others as they have treated us rather than as we should've been treated in the first instance. and yet we know fairness is an everlasting virtue, we know it stood the test of time in the cornerstone of any justice system worth having, what is the answer do we fight fire with fire or do we fight fire with water? righteous water, virtuous water as the prophet said letting justice roll down like water and righteousness like an ever flowing stream. so is it and i for nye or turn the other cheek or something in between? joining us guy benson fox news contributor host of the guy benson show and democrat strategist kevin walling. how should one fight real or perceived injustice by engaging in the same behavior and i for an eye or the prophet who wanted justice and righteousness to be an ever flowing stream what do you think retribution or righteousness. >> i would like to see the flames of unfairness extinguished with water i struggle to envision what that looks like under the scenario because time and time again donald trump we mentioned the russian collusion helps in 2016 and 2017 a cloud over his whole presidency they thought they had a beat that time, by 2020 they manufacturing the russian disinformation about hunter biden's laptop as you accurately described in new york for a lot of trump supporters that feels like one, 23 strikes in diffuse able to win the next election in spite of all of that i think there will be a concern on the left that there might be vengeance and a lot of people in the right saying the vengeance is earned for necessary. trey: kevin, the reason i like having you on i think you're a fair person even on issues upon which we disagree. i'm not asking you if you agree with the anger i am asking if you understand it. i try to understand why the other side is angry even if i do not. i don't want to live in a country where this group is targeting back a real based on their political ideology, how do we get out of a real or perceived i for nye situation which we may be headed towards. >> i really appreciate what you just said. i fully understand the anger in the frustration. i don't think democrats in 2016 understood the anger and frustration not necessarily about donald trump of the grievances but about their stay in life, wages were up they were stuck in the same jobs for four years, the populist rage is donald trump selection in 2016. i double back to what you said an offset that there were four different grand jury's that have indicted t the president among these charges, we have got to somehow restore hope and faith in the judicial system of this country it was a injury of donald trump's appears that indicted him in each of in new york a jury of donald trump many of them have trump social and follow the president and support the president who ultimately decided against former president trump. i think what you seen from president biden with his son on trial this past week at least in his remarks from normandy with david mir when he sat down with him that he will abide with his ruling even if the jury votes to convict his own son and sentence his own son. and that he won't pardon his own son if it comes to that. i think that hopefully is the direction we can all agree on and work together to restore hope in the judicial system. trey: i actually don't think of the hunter biden case, i was a gun prosecutor, i would put him in drug court to be candid with everyone that puts me in the minority but i would put him in drug court, is hilary clinton that i think back on, kevin is correct the grand jury has indicted her but it's tough to get an indictment when you don't seek one. the way she was investigated is different from the way that donald trump or other republicans. i've never heard of having witnesses sit in while you were interviewing, jim comey drafted his memo exonerating her months before he even talked to her. i worry about our justice sy system. guy, let me ask you a political question. i don't forget to solve the justice questions. we have three events the sentencing of donald trump, the debates coming up and his selection as a vice presidential running mate, which of the three do you think has the best chance of moving the needle polit politically. >> i'm going to say the debates and i'm not even sure about that, the obvious answer one would think under normal times or circumstances would be the felony convictions of one of the two candidates running for president that would be the bombshell that could change this race but i know it's early and i want to see the polling averages two or three weeks from now but the early indications including high profile high quality pulling suggest that that really hasn't moved the needle in terms of public opinion against donald trump. i'm getting go with the debates but we will see this feels locked in stone to some extent in a house for months. trey: kevin, i owe you a question i'll pay you back some point in the future but i got way to caught up in the prophet amos, i apologize for that. you are taking us to church. my mom will be happy that i know the names of video the prophets. thank you both for joining us on a sunday nights. we will see you next time. both sides think the academy is a winning issue for them but they both cannot be right can they? kevin o'leary is us thse ae anss next on "sunday night in america". because advil targets pain at the source of inflammation. so for faster pain relief, advil the pain away. when we say it'll be on time, they expect it to be on time. turn shipping to your advantage. keep those expectations with reliable ground shipping. thanks brandon. with usps ground advantage®. ♪ liberty mutual customized my car insurance and i saved hundreds. with all the money i saved i thought i'd buy stilts. being so tall 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not something i kids can afford. trey: the question is why, is it a lack of inventory or has inflation hit the housing market, more dramatically than other sectors. by the way how can both sides run on the academy this nov november. republican side inflation, democrats say the stock market hit record highs, who is right at trump tax cut are set to expire, the marginal wage of 37%, that does not include state, local or sales taxes. god asked for tempers and how much is enough or government. here to make sense fame to investor in o'leary ventures chairman mr. kevin o'leary, thank you for joining us, let's start with housing, what do you think is driving up the cost of buying a home. if you can scrape together the money or get a loan is real estate in your judgment a good investment? >> real estate has always been a good investment for 200 years and it's proven up over history. in the rapid increase in of the interest rates in the anticipation was has not come down only 12 months ago you are thinking seven great cuts in which not have appeared because inflation remains rampant and north of 3% housing is adjusted on simple equations to interest rates. and they are higher than they were in the market so seven, eight, 9% depending on your economic status and that's a lot more than 3.5% four years ago. that is why housing cost have been up 30 or 40%, it's really hard to see the change, i'm not sure that's going to change at all then we had the weird outcome of the pandemic where people moved away from metropolitan areas into areas where they wanted to live in better schools and everything else in it went way through the roof. it's a new america i digitized american housing is more expensive. trey: speaking of america we have an election coming up, early voting starts pretty soon, it's rare to see both parties running on the same issue but democrats site jobs numbers in the market hitting 40000 and republican side inflation in the general sense that all is not well in the market may be on a sugar high, which side has the more compelling argument when it comes to the economy. >> it doesn't matter who you are or what party you're associated with when you're the in cabinet in dealing with inflation. inflation is a simple equation, there are three aspects that really hurt you at the voting poll in its energy on transportation, that is oil and gas, is housing that we just talked about, then it is food in minutes chicken, fish, steak does have not gone down in value since the pandemic, there up 38% and your cna change the lives of fast food restaurants and everything else in those three actions are not good for the incumbent. inflation is never good. it having been repaired over the next four and half months i don't think so. we have inflation that is north of 30% when it has to be to, that is their mandate, it's really sticky in food prices that's where people go to the grocery store every two days and say this piece of chicken is worth 40% more than it was 36 months ago not hurts of the p poll. trey: for future president were to call you and say we can never tax our way out of this deficit there has to be a reduction in spending but neither side wants to talk about that. what is the right kind of mix of more revenue versus spending cuts or should we abandon the notion of a balanced budget, it's a fools goal to have that we can have a balanced budget in mind in your lifetime. >> that's a great question, here's the answer, 1974 in 1975 were getting given example to countries that solve this problem, canada was one in norway was the other, they did a different path, that massive energy reserves in there is a reserve in america with and warmer one of the largest oils on earth untapped, unused. what the canadians did they put a royalty on it same time as norwegians but those norwegians put into the law the all the royalties they charge the lawyer hundred royalty per barrel, every dollar of that had to be spent reducing deficit the canadians did not do that they let the government spend any way that they wanted to and governments waste money and they sponsor their wealth. if you look today kid of the verses norway it's one of the highest in-depth per capita nations on earth, norway are winners, and war is what's going to solve this problem. trey: mr. kevin o'leary taken a ce conch class i wish i would've had you on college i would had a better portfolio than what i have right now, thank you for joining us on a sunday night. up next another high-profile criminal trial, guns, drugs, girlfriends and hunter biden. all that next on "sunday night in america". for one and done heartburn relief, prilosec otc. one pill a day, 24 hours, zero heartburn. a test or approve a medication. we didn't have to worry about any of those things thanks to the donations. and our family is forever grateful because it's completely changed our lives. we're here with chris counahan of our local leaffilter. so chris, tell us how leaffilter is 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news like i'm ashley strohmier, far right party in france, germany austria and belgium making big gains in the parliamentary election that projected wrench president and manual macron to dissolve his country's parliament and call for snap elections. and belgium's prime minister resigned after his party suffered defeat, millions of europeans have been casting ballots this week and what of the world's biggest democratics elections, the flow comes at a pivotal moment that you which is grappling with a range of issues from wars in ukraine and gaza and immigration and climate change. closing arguments expected, hunter biden federal gun trial defense is trying to decide if they will call the president son to testify when the trial resumes tomorrow, prosecutors rested their case friday but it could call a rebuttal witness if hunter takes the stand. i'm ashley strohmier, back to you in "sunday night in america" ♪. trey: welcome back to "sunday night in america". hunter biden is on trial for two things, lying on an application to buy a gun and possessing the gun while being an addict or unlawful user of the controlled substance. lying and buying cases are common, so to our cases against convicted felons. how many people have been prosecuted under this unlawful user or addict section of the gun law. for that matter how many people are being prosecuted for being mentally ill and possessing a gun or being illegally possessing account, i'm all for enforcing the law, i prosecuted federal gun cases for six years. but i'm also for fairness, donald trump was prosecuted on a manufactured felony because he was donald trump. the evidence is overwhelming that hunter biden was an addict and a user of cocaine base when he applied to purchase the gun, it's not a hard case for prosecutors to win. would drug court be a better outcome than prison, joining us two of my favorite legal minds constitutional lawyer mark smith and former u.s. attorney brett tolman. this case has me thinking if hunter biden had gone to a friend were neighbor to buy a gun there would be no federal form to fill out because private sales don't require sfl forms or background checks. two of the charges went to a licensed dealer and not a private person but the possession count would hold regardless because addicts can't possess firearms, is that right? >> you are right and this is a case, i'm not sure in a vacuum that this case gets brought, you have the justice department being shamed into a case of the swirling obligations of what was discovered on the laptop. in the lesser of the evils that it can bring. i think they are refusing to open a legitimate investigation into what the irs whistleblowers are revealing, the hunter biden corruption that included his family and most likely his father all of that was thrown other the rug because they can go forward with this case and they could do exactly what many are saying they are fair and impartial justice system in the lesser of evils to avoid the real work that should've been done in this case. trey: i'm not a second amended absolutist, some of the gop are including candidates that ran for the nomination. i don't think convicted murderers should take fully automatic machine guns and kindergarten classes for some of my former colleagues believe there should be no restrictions on the second amendment, are there constitutional issues with parts of her federal firearms laws including this one being used in the biden case. >> absolutely considerable constitutional question with a large cloth of the federal gun control laws in the hunter biden case, the question is to what degree do individuals that use illegal drugs allowed to possess firearms, the supreme court is working their way through the case law as you know and right now we case before it that's going to speak to this issue. i think at the end of the day where the supreme court will wind up as to who can be disarmed. if you are established to be a violent threat of physically violent threat to herself or to others you can be disarmed, the question in the hunter biden constitutionally if you are a user of drugs but you do have any indication of physical violence, where on the spectrum does not fall are you a nonviolent felony that won't be disarmed i think ultimately or to a drug trafficker or a violent person who can be disarmed, i think the supreme court will need to figure out users of illegal substances fall on the spectrum we won't know that for a few years, this is a developing case law the supreme court has a lot to do in the good to be doing it for the next several years i guess. trey: i know brett knows this because he prosecuted them cocaine base, per se illegal. but value is also a controlled substance, so is lortab. , what kind of a defense to uc, i sat here and look at the case, no question he is a user no lawful user of cocaine base what is the defense other than jury nullification. >> this is an important point, in reality it's as close to a strict liability crime as you can get, it's not a difficult case why are they taking it to trial, they feel they can notify the jury, the arguments are going to be to get one or two jurors to appeal to their bias if they have some or their political interest, that is why you see joe biden flying back and going to the courtroom as soon as she can. i think the hope that the counting on somewhat in the jury that will be willing to convict hunter. trey: i want to play a little bit of a sound from the president and get you to react to the other side. >> as we sit here in normandy, your son hunter is on trial and i know you cannot speak about an ongoing federal prosecution, let me ask you will you accept the jury's outcome, the verdict no matter what it is. >> you. >> have you ruled out a pardon for your son. >> yes. >> most of us would serve prison sentence for our children, he said he would not pardon his son and i'm thinking there is controversial pardons since the beginning of time, why not pardon both of your son and donald trump, make everybody happy or unhappy, he was pretty quick on the no. my wife would want me to hesitate a little bit on that question if it was one of my kids. >> i think joe biden is going to pardon his son hunter biden but i think there is other reasons why you may want to do that if you joe biden not just the fact that he's your son but if you think about it there has been questioned about joe biden's behavior in the past and some of the alleged business dealings and the like and one can see a scenario where joe biden pardons hunter biden and associates associated with hunter biden in various ways so they don't turn state evidence against joe bi biden, one never knows how to any legal investigation goes but i think joe biden has a reason to pardon hunter biden hunter biden's associates not because of the family relationship other self-interested reasons. trey: who would've ever guessed when we were sitting in law school that we will be discussing the intersection of law and presidential politics. i'm glad you guys paid attention but i did not, i wish i could go back to that class in law school, thank you for joining us on a sunday night to the both of you. coming up, benjamin netanyahu will appear before a joint session of congress and already some democrats are plotting their protest while his cease-fire remains on the table on the g7 summit, benjamin netanyahu spokesperson and senator joni ernst on what's next for israel and the middlevs east and the united states, heaf on "sunday night in america" i'g and starving myself just didn't work. what appealed to me about golo was that it focused on losing fat weight and maintaining my muscle. the golo plan and release has given me back my metabolism. golo has shown me how to lose the weight and keep it off. i will never gain the weight back again thanks to golo. switch to shopify and sell smarter at every stage of your business. take full control of your brand with 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more the dominance. congress has jobs in both parties but there are democrats who will appear openly hostile towards the jewish state, some calling for regime change in israel which is rich since they haven't called for russia, iran or north korea to replace their leaders. , what will benjamin netanyahu say, what should he say, will he do a better job of really undergoing american politics and some democrats have done in ignoring israeli politics. are we closer to his cease-fire? is biden still pressuring israel to withdraw as histology and hostages remain kidnapped, tal heinrich is the spokesperson for the israeli prime minister and she joins us now. welcome, hamas to the south, has bullet to the south and american politicians calling for regime change, challenging times for the nation of israel. these are challenging times, thank you for having me on a matching list, and over a hundred overlooked aspect people tend to forget that this is not just a war between us and hamas iranian proxy in gaza we also have palestinian islamic jihad in gaza and we had constant terror attacks from emerging from the west bank from samaria just a few days ago we had missiles from the red sea targeting her territory with the houthis and other iranian proxy and thank you for mentioning hezbollah. notice this number since the beginning of the war on october 7, we have had more than 17000, 500 missiles combined targeting our territory from both north and south, hezbollah and hamas. we had 61000 residents to the north who are unable to the state for more than eight months to return to their home because of hezbollah over the past week we had to fight fires in the north and for more nine hours explosive drones targeting our communities and injuries and damage and whatnot. the prime minister took a tour of the north with the idea and there was a security assessment a few days ago and he said very clearly, one way or another we will restore security in the north, it is up to hezbollah to decide if it's going to be a diplomatic way or the military way. trey: congress has changed a lot in the time since i've been there. i don't think prime minister benjamin netanyahu has forgiven he's going to avoid american politics and focus on what he focused on last time, israel is unique only democracy in sc of theocracies and nondemocratic governments. that is my prediction, he will resist the temptation to insert himself into our politics even though democrats do not resist the temptation to insert themselves into israeli politics. >> i think you're right will find out when the prime minister gets here in late july and he will speak to the american people and the american congress for the overwhelming support that we have been receiving and this is not what you see on tv and what's been highlighted by the media and we get the american people stand by us and you guys hate terrorists and we hate terrorist and were fighting against. evil as president biden called hamas early on when he came to israel to stand by us in the country. the prime minister will speak the truth about this in a very, very war objectives as we defined them on day one of the war to bring all of our stolen people the hostages back home in the hamas terrorist regime as a governing body in the military wing and gaza to make sure the territory i should call it a territory will never pose a threat to us and never ever again, this is not changed since day one of the war, this is time for moral clarity in the prime minister will think the american people and remind everyone that we need america by our side in the moral global leadership. >> mentioned evil and hamas, there is a cease-fire and a moss is not going to accept israel and accept the jewish state in the region. to me as cease-fire gives them time to regroup and rearm. i will give you the last word on whether or not it is worth pursuing. >> i think there's something i need to highlight there is a difference between a temporary humanitarian pause in the fight for the release of hostages, something we facilitated back in november and agreed to do again and the notion of a permanent cease-fire that would leave hamas in power, that's not going to happen. trey: thank you tal heinrich, we will see in late july exactly what prime minister benjamin netanyahu says as he addresses a joint session of congress, thank you for joining us on a sunday night. trey: president biden heads to italy for the g7 summit where a full agenda awaits. his cease-fire in the middle east will be discussed even as hamas holds israeli hostages. ukraine defies odd but needs more and better weapons, iran has a new leader in north korea is acting like a petulant child once again. joy did as iowa senator joni ernst who served our country in uniform and now serves on the senate armed services committee, welcome senator it's wonderful to see you again i guess we will start with israel stunning number of american politicians who called for regime change in newsreel even in the midst of war with hamas, what do you make a president biden's handling of this war and the impact of domestic politics on his decision-making. >> thank you, remember when october 7 happen shortly after that president biden said we had an ironclad commitment to israel, that is faltering over the months and it's very unfortunate to see not only as president joe biden waffling in attempting to tell israel how they should or shouldn't run their war but now we see a number of the other democrats serving in the halls of congress and following the lead by waffling and some of them outright pushing against israel and protesting supporting the palestinians and hamas. it's a really unfortunate situation to be in and israel is her closest friend in ally in the middle east. trey: a gop member of the house, just one but a gop member question if they should remain part of nato which is especially curious thing to say as we celebrate the day when the forces of good join hands to defeat the axis of evil, in your judgment what is the status of nato and with russia's continuing war against ukraine. >> you know me and most folks know where i stand on this issue i think nato has a role in the world but what we can do as america and as a world leader is encourager nato partners to do much more, they need to make their two requirement of spending on defense were their own countries of their own gdp. we need to push on them to do much more, this is something that president trump had engaged in when he was in the white house and was very successful at that getting our nato allies and friends to stand up and do more, joe biden has left a number of them wondering where is american leadership, this is why we need a change in the white house. nato does have a role to play especially as we see were continuing in europe, we cannot allow it to pervasively push all the crossed europe and threaten our national security in the united states of america. again i think nato is 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