>> it is, what i would say to that is that, as decent human beings most of us look at case like this and apply logic, say there is no way someone could go from zero to 4, that might be the -- the rub. there is no way to apply logic to what occurred in idaho. so, down through history, we have seen despaired behavior among people who commit multiple m homicide it is hard to marry yourself to a theory is this the first. that is such a horrific crime, i hesitate to speculate. what is interesting, the fact that this is a multiple homicide, in idaho, means that it qualifies as an