and that nato approaches security and defense in a serious way. and that means military strengthening, the necessary military strengthening of nato member states. it also means military purchases, this is necessary in nato member states. so there is no other way. military, defense spending has to be increased. right now nato has got a set level of 2%. that was agreed back in 2014. this is a minimum. in fact, i believe that the efforts should be made to increase that level to 3%. as it was, it will have bad reflections of that, bad memories. but today, unfortunately, we're seeing a return the that time in our history just as it was in the times of the cold war. this is the way to keep peace in the world to stop russian imperialism, and this is exactly what what we should do right now. maria: what do you think putin is thinking? if do you expect him to try to