this. when people are dying because they're being deprived of highly effective, cheap, widely available drugs that do not present as obscene profits to the pharmaceutical companies. maria: that is disgusting. i know for a fact that hydroxychloroquine works to treat covid. senator, i want to ask you if this is all about money. big farming ma is the largest lobbying spender in terms of monies spent on lobbying -- big pharma. is this administration trying to insure that these big pharma companies make $90 billion on vaccines and people don't go for the cheaper alternatives which are off patent? >> i don't know what other explanation there really would be. these drugs are approved, they're just not recommended for this particular application. so doctors have off-label prescription rights. people like dr. kory, you know, doctors that have the courage and the passion to treat patients, i'd much rather listen